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Just tried one of these on at an outlet village. 2016 re issue of the original. The original had the crown at 9 o'clock amongst other differences but on first glance they are very similar. It was priced at £3k probably a bit more to come out of it.
2 year warranty, calibre 17 movement, any constructive thoughts, too dear? not looking at investment value but not sure on quality of this range?
It is just a bit different to all my others thanks in advance
2 year warranty, calibre 17 movement, any constructive thoughts, too dear? not looking at investment value but not sure on quality of this range?
It is just a bit different to all my others thanks in advance
I had the 90s(?) reissue, white face, only 'Heuer' logo, not TAG. Bought s/h. Easy to scratch, wears quite thick and (then) a cheap movement that went wrong - the seconds needle would not zero at 12. Cannot comment on modern version other than cushion case/square watches are a bit Marmite so don't buy to invest. £3k seems in OK in the scheme of things today.
stevewak said:
I had the 90s(?) reissue, white face, only 'Heuer' logo, not TAG. Bought s/h. Easy to scratch, wears quite thick and (then) a cheap movement that went wrong - the seconds needle would not zero at 12. Cannot comment on modern version other than cushion case/square watches are a bit Marmite so don't buy to invest. £3k seems in OK in the scheme of things today.
Lol the white face Monza did not have a “cheap” movement it had a calibre 36 or Zenith El Primero as used in similar age Rolex Daytona but not “de tuned” in the Tag. They require more frequent service compared to the 7750 used in pretty much every other chronograph of that era in the same way a Ferrari V12 might have a more exacting service schedule than a Ford KA Endura-E.£3k for the PVD seems like a great price, cheaper than a second hand one on C24. They are very nice watches that uses the same movement as the first Tudor BB chronographs. The only thing is I find PVD is quite easy to damage in day to day use but I am a clumsy oaf.
Edited by nikaiyo2 on Sunday 5th September 08:57
nikaiyo2 said:
Lol the white face Monza did not have a “cheap” movement it had a calibre 36 or Zenith El Primero as used in similar age Rolex Daytona but not “de tuned” in the Tag. They require more frequent service compared to the 7750 used in pretty much every other chronograph of that era in the same way a Ferrari V12 might have a more exacting service schedule than a Ford KA Endura-E.
£3k for the PVD seems like a great price, cheaper than a second hand one on C24. They are very nice watches that uses the same movement as the first Tudor BB chronographs. The only thing is I find PVD is quite easy to damage in day to day use but I am a clumsy oaf.
The CR2111 reissue (see https://www.calibre11.com/tag-heuer-monza-re-editi... used a TAG Heuer Calibre 17 which is based on an ETA 2894-2 - https://www.calibre11.com/tag-heuer-calibre-17-rev...£3k for the PVD seems like a great price, cheaper than a second hand one on C24. They are very nice watches that uses the same movement as the first Tudor BB chronographs. The only thing is I find PVD is quite easy to damage in day to day use but I am a clumsy oaf.
Edited by nikaiyo2 on Sunday 5th September 08:57
ewand said:
The CR2111 reissue (see https://www.calibre11.com/tag-heuer-monza-re-editi... used a TAG Heuer Calibre 17 which is based on an ETA 2894-2 - https://www.calibre11.com/tag-heuer-calibre-17-rev...
Interesting. “Module” rings a bell when I went into a jeweller asking about servicing it. And not in a good way. stevewak said:
Interesting. “Module” rings a bell when I went into a jeweller asking about servicing it. And not in a good way.
Modular architectures are nothing new - the original Chrono-matic Cal 11 movement as found in Heuer Monaco / Autavia / Carrera of 1969, and numerous others from Hamilton, Breitling etc, was a modular movement. They bolted a Dubois-Depraz chrono module to a Buren automatic movement, turned around 180 degrees to make it all fit in the case - that's why the crown was on the left side (ie the crown to operate the base movement was on the opposite side to the pushers that worked the chrono).Early quartz analog chronographs from the 1980s often had a quartz movement with a mechanical chrono module bolted on; Seiko's 7a28 movement was the first fully integrated analog, quartz chronograph.
Some say that the modern modular movements need to go back to the factory for servicing, and that they might just replace the module rather than strip it for service, but a good watchmaker would be able to service it just fine, as long as they can get parts. If you look at the modern Heuer Cal 11 as found on the current Monaco, like the fancy Ti one Mr Verstappen straps on and constantly touches his nose so everyone can see it... that's a Sellita movement with a DD chronograph module.
https://nickhacko.blogspot.com/2013/03/integrated-...
https://forum.tz-uk.com/showthread.php?474591-ETA-...
ewand said:
The CR2111 reissue (see https://www.calibre11.com/tag-heuer-monza-re-editi... used a TAG Heuer Calibre 17 which is based on an ETA 2894-2 - https://www.calibre11.com/tag-heuer-calibre-17-rev...
Every day is a school day! I always thought the white faced had Cal36s! Might have saved me a few there 
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