Watch shops, here, there and everywhere!
Watch shops, here, there and everywhere!
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tangerine_sedge

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6,095 posts

239 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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I was dragged along to my local mega-mall this weekend (Cribbs Causeway, Bristol), and noticed that the number of single brand 'boutique' watch shops had suddenly appeared (at some point in the last 2 years - I don't go there often).

There were still general purpose jewellers, but in addition there were Tag Heuer, Tudor & Bremont boutiques. Is this happening across the country, or is it unique to the West Country?

ellroy

7,703 posts

246 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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No happening in the North as well.

Now got Rolex, Omega, Tag and Vacheron boutiques in Leeds as well as the more generalist dealers.

Malcolm E Boo

257 posts

93 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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More or less the same in The Trafford Centre

CoolHands

21,993 posts

216 months

Monday 5th September 2022
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But who buys all this dross. Showy love island types I suppose.

Barchettaman

7,060 posts

153 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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Certainly the case on the continent: I’ve seen Rado and Mido boutiques opening up in Austria and Germany.

Swatch group flexing its retail muscles, perhaps?

tangerine_sedge

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6,095 posts

239 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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Barchettaman said:
Certainly the case on the continent: I’ve seen Rado and Mido boutiques opening up in Austria and Germany.

Swatch group flexing its retail muscles, perhaps?
Possibly, but the numbers don't seem to stack up? replace one shop with (let's guess 8 staff), with 4 shops with (let's guess 14 staff in total). Plus all the additional shop running costs and the bespoke fit outs. I can't see how they expect to make any money?

spaximus

4,362 posts

274 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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tangerine_sedge said:
Possibly, but the numbers don't seem to stack up? replace one shop with (let's guess 8 staff), with 4 shops with (let's guess 14 staff in total). Plus all the additional shop running costs and the bespoke fit outs. I can't see how they expect to make any money?
I would guess they make more profit by not supplying a middle man and going direct. I went to Cribbs and they have every type of jewellery store, some supplying the same product as these single brand outlets. We shall see how long they last as we keep being told there is no money out there

Silvanus

6,904 posts

44 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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spaximus said:
tangerine_sedge said:
Possibly, but the numbers don't seem to stack up? replace one shop with (let's guess 8 staff), with 4 shops with (let's guess 14 staff in total). Plus all the additional shop running costs and the bespoke fit outs. I can't see how they expect to make any money?
I would guess they make more profit by not supplying a middle man and going direct. I went to Cribbs and they have every type of jewellery store, some supplying the same product as these single brand outlets. We shall see how long they last as we keep being told there is no money out there
loads of money out there, just not necessarily distributed that well and finance is still cheap and easy, loads of money out there to be spent. Guy I worked with just before lockdown has a surprisingly large amount of luxury goods including watches. He knew/planned that he was going to get an IVA, and had max out credit cards here there and everywhere, yet he was still being approved for more. Despite hin now having an IVA he has a flash car, lives in a brand new house, several holidays abroad etc. Not quire sure how people like this get away with it, sure he's not a one off.

toon10

6,962 posts

178 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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The Metro Centre has always had a Goldsmiths and other generic jewelers but the last couple of years or so has seen a few dedicated boutiques open up. Omega, Breitling, etc.

Mezzanine

10,580 posts

240 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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More control over the ‘brand experience’ and less chance for the general consumer to compare prices to other brands in the window (why would you spent X on that when this one looks almost the same and is only Y)

There is a multi brand retailer near where I live who have refitted out their shop so it looks like they have four or five little separate brand ‘boutiques’ in their space rather than just a big window full of stock. Each has its own furniture/lighting/marketing vibe.


Jamescrs

5,751 posts

86 months

Tuesday 6th September 2022
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Was in Meadowhall Sheffield last week and noticed the same from all the big Swiss brands with a Rolex store also being fitted out

bigsi

202 posts

229 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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same our way, with boutiques popping up....interesting about the rolex boutique as none have stock! wink

tangerine_sedge

Original Poster:

6,095 posts

239 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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spaximus said:
tangerine_sedge said:
Possibly, but the numbers don't seem to stack up? replace one shop with (let's guess 8 staff), with 4 shops with (let's guess 14 staff in total). Plus all the additional shop running costs and the bespoke fit outs. I can't see how they expect to make any money?
I would guess they make more profit by not supplying a middle man and going direct. I went to Cribbs and they have every type of jewellery store, some supplying the same product as these single brand outlets. We shall see how long they last as we keep being told there is no money out there
It seems like they've all suddenly appeared just as we're about to go into a financially difficult period (avoiding calling it a recession!). Personally, I think they'll all be gone within a year...

bristolbaron

5,330 posts

233 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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I haven’t yet seen the boutique, but know the others. A friend (and ex colleague from my retail days) is managing the Bremont store.

Goldsmiths are also apparently moving to a larger unit, I worked in the original store when it first opened in 1998.

I understand the brand experience, but I can’t see how these stores are going to generate the sales required to justify the costs involved.

Mezzanine

10,580 posts

240 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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bristolbaron said:
I haven’t yet seen the boutique, but know the others. A friend (and ex colleague from my retail days) is managing the Bremont store.

Goldsmiths are also apparently moving to a larger unit, I worked in the original store when it first opened in 1998.

I understand the brand experience, but I can’t see how these stores are going to generate the sales required to justify the costs involved.
Might sound counterintuitive but if they are directly owned boutiques, do they need to actually make money? Is there an element of using them to write of tax bills etc?

yellowtang

1,790 posts

159 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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I was astounded to see the Bremont boutique in Cribbs - I really can’t see that being there long term.

Also, didn’t notice the Tudor boutique, do Fraser still carry Tudor there?

Skyman

1,570 posts

245 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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Mezzanine said:
bristolbaron said:
I haven’t yet seen the boutique, but know the others. A friend (and ex colleague from my retail days) is managing the Bremont store.

Goldsmiths are also apparently moving to a larger unit, I worked in the original store when it first opened in 1998.

I understand the brand experience, but I can’t see how these stores are going to generate the sales required to justify the costs involved.
Might sound counterintuitive but if they are directly owned boutiques, do they need to actually make money? Is there an element of using them to write of tax bills etc?
For info, like many other examples, the CC Bristol Tudor boutique is in fact owned by Aurum. Not a manufacture direct unit.




Edited by Skyman on Wednesday 7th September 17:55

Jamescrs

5,751 posts

86 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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Mezzanine said:
Might sound counterintuitive but if they are directly owned boutiques, do they need to actually make money? Is there an element of using them to write of tax bills etc?
I believe the boutiques are usually owned by the big chains, Goldsmiths, Watches of Switzerland etc.

There's a big Rolex store in Leeds all the branding is Rolex nut it is actually owned by Berrys's who have around 4 other stores also in the city.


Edited by Jamescrs on Wednesday 7th September 21:01

DP14

373 posts

60 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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Jamescrs said:
Mezzanine said:
Might sound counterintuitive but if they are directly owned boutiques, do they need to actually make money? Is there an element of using them to write of tax bills etc?
I believe the boutiques are usually owned by the big chains, Goldsmiths, Watches of Switzerland etc.
Presumably there's some carrot and/or stick encouragement for authorised dealers to invest in these boutiques to present the desired image, which has moved on from a display card and 6 watches in the window.

Crumpet

4,931 posts

201 months

Wednesday 7th September 2022
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Jamescrs said:
I believe the boutiques are usually owned by the big chains, Goldsmiths, Watches of Switzerland etc.

There's a big Rolex store in Leeds all the branding is Rolex nut it is actually owned by Berrys's who have around 4 other stores also in the city.


Edited by Jamescrs on Wednesday 7th September 21:01
They must be. Call the Tudor store in Meadowhall before opening time and you go through to the Beaverbrooks next door! Not sure I like it, really. I like having a single point of contact in one store who can get what I want.