Rolex - Is This Fake ?

[Jap90s]

My father died and we're clearing out

He had many genuine watches but also some fakes

I've had a Google and it looks genuine to me

[Doofus]

Jap90s said:

My father died and we're clearing out

He had many genuine watches but also some fakes

I've had a Google and it looks genuine to me

With photos that poor, I doubt anyone here will be able to help.

[Jap90s]

The first two are clear on my phone, the third I struggled with

As I haven't had 10 posts saying of course it isn't because of xxxxx then I'll assume it's at least worthwhile getting appraised

I just didn't want to take obvious fakes

I also wondered if the scratching inside the back referred to servicing ?

[Tom1312]

Have you got any more pictures?

Case, crown, dial, hands etc etc

[SpanishTony]

If you think about what fakes were like in terms of quality when the watch was produced, that might give you a better idea of if it might be a fake or not.

[gregs656]

Jap90s said:

The first two are clear on my phone, the third I struggled with

As I haven't had 10 posts saying of course it isn't because of xxxxx then I'll assume it's at least worthwhile getting appraised

I just didn't want to take obvious fakes

I also wondered if the scratching inside the back referred to servicing ?

To me it looks right, but I only watch youtube videos and have no watchmaking experience. It is not a model that I would think would have been faked (or at least, with this amount of effort).

For example the automatic winding work pivots are jeweled which I don't think is common but is something Rolex do, and that pinkish colour is correct for Rolex and is due to a process those wheels go through (I don't remember what it is).

Edited by gregs656 on Wednesday 18th January 19:53

[Hoofy]

Let's have a look at the face and side of the case. I've seen some "homages" and things like the cyclops/magnifier aren't properly lined up plus the bezel is flatter. Some fakes (with "Rolex") on it have obvious things like poor lining up of the fonts or batons/markers.

[NDA]

It looks right.... but hard to say with certainty.

Pic of genuine movement nabbed off the web

[the-norseman]

More pictures needed. If in doubt send it off to Rolex and see what they say.

If it is fake thought they wont send it you back.

[Pflanzgarten]

SpanishTony said:

If you think about what fakes were like in terms of quality when the watch was produced, that might give you a better idea of if it might be a fake or not.

I think this is a good point, it certainly looks like what you'd expect from a very quick google. I'd bet it is a genuine Rolex movement but it depends what it's in-it could easily be a Frankenwatch of bits and bobs but without more photos the forum experts won't be able to tell.

[dom9]

SpanishTony said:

If you think about what fakes were like in terms of quality when the watch was produced, that might give you a better idea of if it might be a fake or not.

Was going to say this... recent fakes are very good and often difficult to assess from pics but if you tell me that watch is 10+ years old then I'd think that must be a good one. Have you got an independent specialist who would take a look for a drink?

[Jap90s]

It's at least 15 years old - we found it in a box of misc stuff in the garage !

I haven't got any more pics but I'll update the thread when I know any more, we're taking a car full of stuff be be appraised he was something of a collector / hoarder

[gregs656]

Jap90s said:

It's at least 15 years old - we found it in a box of misc stuff in the garage !

I haven't got any more pics but I'll update the thread when I know any more, we're taking a car full of stuff be be appraised he was something of a collector / hoarder

It’s probably a 60s watch.

In your third picture there is a number in a square - it looks like 1560 - is it? That’s the movement model.

1002 in the case back is the model number.

[Crumpet]

gregs656 said:

It’s probably a 60s watch.

In your third picture there is a number in a square - it looks like 1560 - is it? That’s the movement model.

1002 in the case back is the model number.

Looks like a 1520 movement, which would fit with it being a 1960s 1002. Can’t imagine many of these have been faked with accurate looking movements. I’m going with real.

[Chipstick]

Jap90s said:

It's at least 15 years old - we found it in a box of misc stuff in the garage !

Did he store the others in a box in the garage or were they more carefully stored?

[gregs656]

Crumpet said:

Looks like a 1520 movement, which would fit with it being a 1960s 1002. Can’t imagine many of these have been faked with accurate looking movements. I’m going with real.

I think it’s real too. No one would have faked these to this extent, not worth it. 34mm hasn’t been in fashion for a long time.

[Riff Raff]

gregs656 said:

Crumpet said:

Looks like a 1520 movement, which would fit with it being a 1960s 1002. Can’t imagine many of these have been faked with accurate looking movements. I’m going with real.

I think it’s real too. No one would have faked these to this extent, not worth it. 34mm hasn’t been in fashion for a long time.

If it is a fake his Uncle went to the trouble of having it serviced….

[Zoon]

Riff Raff said:

If it is a fake his Uncle went to the trouble of having it serviced….

How do you know?

[Riff Raff]

Zoon said:

Riff Raff said:

If it is a fake his Uncle went to the trouble of having it serviced….

How do you know?

Photo of the case back has a service mark scratched into it. Mind you, that could be a fake too

[harrycovert]

I think this is what a fake looks like