new watch - what to buy?
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After donkeys years of my daily being a Seiko Kinetic divers jobbie - totally bulletproof, even ran over the first one on my motorbike without damage inly for it to get nicked in Jersey marina showers. Well the current one is broken and likely the repair bill will be more than the value of the watch. So into the bin it goes.
What to replace it with. Have often wondered about Rolex but to me the £15k or so is a watch for dressing up rather than taking the boat engine to bits. But I would like a decent mechanical rather than going Citizen or similar. Waterproof, but then they almost all are these days. And I would like a chronograph for sail racing.
And finally the idea of spending decent money on something that instantly halves in value doesnt appeal either.
recommendations?
What to replace it with. Have often wondered about Rolex but to me the £15k or so is a watch for dressing up rather than taking the boat engine to bits. But I would like a decent mechanical rather than going Citizen or similar. Waterproof, but then they almost all are these days. And I would like a chronograph for sail racing.
And finally the idea of spending decent money on something that instantly halves in value doesnt appeal either.
recommendations?
Rabbit hole website dedicated to regatta timers > https://www.regatta-yachttimers.com/ < not updated recently though
Half the price of a Rolex
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watch-omega-sea...
Or a cheaper one
https://www.fraserhart.co.uk/l38354526-longines-co...
Or used
https://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Omega/Seamaster%20Ch...
Certina have some good value watches as well for less money
https://www.beaverbrooks.co.uk/0143795/Certina-DS-...
I have the non Chrono version of this and it’s a lovely watch for the money
https://www.omegawatches.com/en-gb/watch-omega-sea...
Or a cheaper one
https://www.fraserhart.co.uk/l38354526-longines-co...
Or used
https://www.watchfinder.co.uk/Omega/Seamaster%20Ch...
Certina have some good value watches as well for less money
https://www.beaverbrooks.co.uk/0143795/Certina-DS-...
I have the non Chrono version of this and it’s a lovely watch for the money
Ok, so going by how happy you were with your old Seiko Kinetic I would suggest a Citizen Promaster EcoDrive titanium diver.

Rugged and reliable, lightweight, pretty much maintenance free.
Edit: apologies, I completely missed the no Citizen / auto preferred bit. No idea why. Best of luck with your search!
Rugged and reliable, lightweight, pretty much maintenance free.
Edit: apologies, I completely missed the no Citizen / auto preferred bit. No idea why. Best of luck with your search!
Edited by Barchettaman on Thursday 3rd July 12:12
What is your budget?
Every major watchmaker has chrono models.
Are you looking for new or lightly used? The latter is pretty much the only way to avoid depreciation. FWIW I never buy new as other than the Daytona or Royal Oak-which are impossible to buy new anyway-suffer depreciation
Omega and Zenith have an awesome history of chronographs and the Omega some great nautical watches
Every major watchmaker has chrono models.
Are you looking for new or lightly used? The latter is pretty much the only way to avoid depreciation. FWIW I never buy new as other than the Daytona or Royal Oak-which are impossible to buy new anyway-suffer depreciation
Omega and Zenith have an awesome history of chronographs and the Omega some great nautical watches
bordseye said:
And finally the idea of spending decent money on something that instantly halves in value doesnt appeal either.
Date-sub on grey market for around £11k. It will easily last for the rest of your life and can be worn to take the boat engine to bits, also will hold its value or absolute worst case drop maybe 25%.Difficult question to answer when we are unsure what 'decent money' is...
ETA: Missed the chrono bit, Speedmaster then fits the bill? If not wanting to spend £15k.
https://www.guinand-uhren.de/uhren.html

Guinand make some lovely chronographs in very small numbers from their little factory in Frankfurt. Not something you'll see everybody wearing and not as expensive as you may imagine.
The Longines posted above is lovely too.

Guinand make some lovely chronographs in very small numbers from their little factory in Frankfurt. Not something you'll see everybody wearing and not as expensive as you may imagine.
The Longines posted above is lovely too.

Abc321 said:
Date-sub on grey market for around £11k. It will easily last for the rest of your life and can be worn to take the boat engine to bits, also will hold its value or absolute worst case drop maybe 25%.
Difficult question to answer when we are unsure what 'decent money' is...
ETA: Missed the chrono bit, Speedmaster then fits the bill? If not wanting to spend £15k.
I would go for a seamaster rather than a speedmaster for your needs (better water resistance). Difficult question to answer when we are unsure what 'decent money' is...
ETA: Missed the chrono bit, Speedmaster then fits the bill? If not wanting to spend £15k.
Doofus said:
What do you call 'decent money'?
I had looked at a Bremont but to me the £5k cost is a decent amount of money given how much cheaper the likes of my Seiko are, and as you walk out of the shop Bremont in hand you lose half the purchase price. OK you dont buy it to immediately resell and indeed am unlikely ever to resell - but it still sticks in my throats to have thrown away £2500.Which is a long winded way of saying that £5k is decent money in my book.
vixen1700 said:
https://www.guinand-uhren.de/uhren.html

Guinand make some lovely chronographs in very small numbers from their little factory in Frankfurt. Not something you'll see everybody wearing and not as expensive as you may imagine.
The Longines posted above is lovely too.
That Guinand is absolutley gorgeous 
Guinand make some lovely chronographs in very small numbers from their little factory in Frankfurt. Not something you'll see everybody wearing and not as expensive as you may imagine.
The Longines posted above is lovely too.


Left field choice .... Ball Hydrocarbon NEDU watch.
Lovely looking thing, to me anyway, feels good, looks good, wears well.
https://oracleoftime.com/ball-watch-engineer-hydro...
https://www.watchadvice.com.au/10480/ball-engineer...
Good used examples can be had within your budget not that the new prices is outside what you want to pay.
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/ball/engineer-hydrocarb...
Love mine, feels premium, hard wearing etc.
Lovely looking thing, to me anyway, feels good, looks good, wears well.
https://oracleoftime.com/ball-watch-engineer-hydro...
https://www.watchadvice.com.au/10480/ball-engineer...
Good used examples can be had within your budget not that the new prices is outside what you want to pay.
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/ball/engineer-hydrocarb...
Love mine, feels premium, hard wearing etc.
Nezquick said:
vixen1700 said:
Mogsmex said:
That Guinand is absolutley gorgeous 
Isn't it just! 

BiggaJ said:
Left field choice .... Ball Hydrocarbon NEDU watch.
Lovely looking thing, to me anyway, feels good, looks good, wears well.
https://oracleoftime.com/ball-watch-engineer-hydro...
https://www.watchadvice.com.au/10480/ball-engineer...
Good used examples can be had within your budget not that the new prices is outside what you want to pay.
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/ball/engineer-hydrocarb...
Love mine, feels premium, hard wearing etc.
Meh, put me off...Lovely looking thing, to me anyway, feels good, looks good, wears well.
https://oracleoftime.com/ball-watch-engineer-hydro...
https://www.watchadvice.com.au/10480/ball-engineer...
Good used examples can be had within your budget not that the new prices is outside what you want to pay.
https://www.chrono24.co.uk/ball/engineer-hydrocarb...
Love mine, feels premium, hard wearing etc.

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