Omega Speedy Pro
Discussion
After researching a new purchase, (well Dom did for me!), I've been shocked by the difference in list price between the standard, original, moon watch, and the one with the display back!
As far as I can tell the only differences are:
1. Sapphire instead of hesalite.
2. Sapphire instead of metal back.
3. A couple of plastic parts in the movement replaced with metal ones for aesthetic purposes.
How can that possibly explain a price increase from £2140 for the original one, to £2610 for the display back model?!
I'm trying to justify paying the extra, but that's a lot of polywatch!
Does anyone know any other differences that would make paying the extra easier to swallow?!
Arse!
As far as I can tell the only differences are:
1. Sapphire instead of hesalite.
2. Sapphire instead of metal back.
3. A couple of plastic parts in the movement replaced with metal ones for aesthetic purposes.
How can that possibly explain a price increase from £2140 for the original one, to £2610 for the display back model?!
I'm trying to justify paying the extra, but that's a lot of polywatch!
Does anyone know any other differences that would make paying the extra easier to swallow?! Arse!
Does the display back model have a different name ie a limited addition or is it exactly the same as a professional but with a display back?. Also you dont mean the co axial do you ? as thats got the toughter glass, display back and an automatic movement.
where those the prices quoted you? as that appears to be list. A jeweller in town had the professional up for 2100, but would do 1870 cash and watch finder has a standard professional 1770.
just confused as i'm that far (insert very small gap) from getting one myself
where those the prices quoted you? as that appears to be list. A jeweller in town had the professional up for 2100, but would do 1870 cash and watch finder has a standard professional 1770.
just confused as i'm that far (insert very small gap) from getting one myself
Yep, those are the Omega list prices. Obviously there are discounts to be had, but will be a similar % off each list price.
The price for the display back version is simply that. A display back version of the standard moon watch, not the co-axial version. The movement might be slightly more decorated, but it's essentially the same....
The price for the display back version is simply that. A display back version of the standard moon watch, not the co-axial version. The movement might be slightly more decorated, but it's essentially the same....
I'd be intrigued to hear the discounts, was tempted to e mial dom myself but hadnt quite persuaded myself i can justify it
hmm I'd probably go for the normal back, yes the display back is cool but probably only £100's worth of cool not about £500's worth. Also the standard back is quite nice from what i remember of the one I looked at in the shop so i'd probably go for that one
hmm I'd probably go for the normal back, yes the display back is cool but probably only £100's worth of cool not about £500's worth. Also the standard back is quite nice from what i remember of the one I looked at in the shop so i'd probably go for that one
Edited by matt12023 on Tuesday 26th January 15:36
I have the "sapphire sandwich" version, although when I bought it the price differential was significantly lower - I think that list of the sapphire was around 2340, and hesalite 2160, before the Hackett discount.
You've summed it up. The pros are that 2+ years after I bought mine it is completely unmarked, whereas a watch my wife owns with a hesalite face has picked up a couple of nasty scratches. You also get to look at the movement, which I've always liked the idea of.
The cons are that the watch is considered less authentic than a "real" moon watch, which was flight certified because the Hesalite cracks (but stays intact) rather than shatters under extreme forces, and therefore poses a significantly smaller risk in a low gravity/vacuum environment. The Hesalite face is also a slightly more attractive shape in profile because of the difficulties in achieving the same contours with the much harder Sapphire crystal.
You pays yer money, but I love the sapphire and would buy it again in the same circumstances.
You've summed it up. The pros are that 2+ years after I bought mine it is completely unmarked, whereas a watch my wife owns with a hesalite face has picked up a couple of nasty scratches. You also get to look at the movement, which I've always liked the idea of.
The cons are that the watch is considered less authentic than a "real" moon watch, which was flight certified because the Hesalite cracks (but stays intact) rather than shatters under extreme forces, and therefore poses a significantly smaller risk in a low gravity/vacuum environment. The Hesalite face is also a slightly more attractive shape in profile because of the difficulties in achieving the same contours with the much harder Sapphire crystal.
You pays yer money, but I love the sapphire and would buy it again in the same circumstances.
i've pondered about the glass, i've read quite often on here that the scratches can be removed with a paste, the name of which escapes me at the moment. How true is this?
Also the issue of oooooh its not the real moon watch pops up in my head. But its obviously not actually been in space so how much difference does it make that its the same as one that has been. you can get space food which is the same as they eat up there but i'd not eat it over normal food, which says to me maybe i'd be better going for the more modern co axial or at least the one with saphire and display back because its better if not fully authentic
Also the issue of oooooh its not the real moon watch pops up in my head. But its obviously not actually been in space so how much difference does it make that its the same as one that has been. you can get space food which is the same as they eat up there but i'd not eat it over normal food, which says to me maybe i'd be better going for the more modern co axial or at least the one with saphire and display back because its better if not fully authentic
matt12023 said:
i've pondered about the glass, i've read quite often on here that the scratches can be removed with a paste, the name of which escapes me at the moment. How true is this?
Also the issue of oooooh its not the real moon watch pops up in my head. But its obviously not actually been in space so how much difference does it make that its the same as one that has been. you can get space food which is the same as they eat up there but i'd not eat it over normal food, which says to me maybe i'd be better going for the more modern co axial or at least the one with saphire and display back because its better if not fully authentic
As far as originality goes, I'm not sure if you can really consider a new one in the same light as a calibre 321 model, which would have been the one originally flight tested by NASA. Trying to find one of those at sensible money might be fun.Also the issue of oooooh its not the real moon watch pops up in my head. But its obviously not actually been in space so how much difference does it make that its the same as one that has been. you can get space food which is the same as they eat up there but i'd not eat it over normal food, which says to me maybe i'd be better going for the more modern co axial or at least the one with saphire and display back because its better if not fully authentic
Also, if you really want to, you can add a display back to a standard Speedy. There's a place in the US (Otto Frei?) that will flog you one. You need the display back and an enlargement ring I think.
matt12023 said:
i've pondered about the glass, i've read quite often on here that the scratches can be removed with a paste, the name of which escapes me at the moment. How true is this?
It's called Polywatch and supposedly works a treat - Not expensive stuff either!I'd personally go for the one with the display back, as you've bought a special movement with a fantastic history behind it, why not see it in action? I think you'll find yourself admiring it in time, even though no one else will see the display back when the watch is on your wrist ...
Not mine, btw!
Nice story about the buying and restoration of a pre-moon speedy here
http://www.omega-addict.com/reviews/speedmaster/
http://www.omega-addict.com/reviews/speedmaster/
Thats an amazing looking watch back, you've sold me on the display back. I'm a geeky engineer so i'd probably spend as much time looking at the back as at the front
only problem now is i'm very tempted to e mail dom and see what the damage is on one of these
only problem now is i'm very tempted to e mail dom and see what the damage is on one of these
Edited by matt12023 on Wednesday 27th January 13:23
matt12023 said:
How does one go about contacting dom then? i've seen his website through his profile. Do you mention the link with piston heads I presume. I feel like finding out the cost of a display back professional. I'll deserve a treat for selling my chim
You do know there is a secret handshake involved, don't you? Drop him a mail through his profile here: http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?mem... or give him a bell on 0207 831 1155 and just mention that you post on PH 
Edited by Ikemi on Wednesday 27th January 13:59
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