Gents Omega De Ville (1967) 18ct

[ecain63]

I acquired this watch today through a friend and am unsure as to its value / rarity.
Details:

Gents round De Ville - 1969
18ct yellow gold (solid) back and glass surround
Machine / Satin finish Yellow face with polished yellow gold Omega badge and 'black topped' numerals.
Number 111.0067
Hour and minute only (not date or second)
Wind up movement (all working perfectly and keeping correct time)
Excellent condition with service markers inside case

Not the original strap though, but i can source it.
No paperwork or box.


Having searched the Omega Archive (http://62.73.172.167/cu_vintage/main.php) it was built in 1969. Its in fantastic condition and having spoken to my watchmaker he is estimating £1800 at auction (with correct strap). Having also done a bit of research to see if any are on sale in the UK it seems there are none so im not sure where to start. All the info i have found has been from Europe and thats alo a bit vague so im guessing that it might not have been commonly available in the UK.

Has anyone seen, used or had experience of this watch? If so, what should i be looking to get for it?

Some pics below, inc one to show size comparison against my Seamaster Pro Chrono

Edited by ecain63 on Tuesday 16th March 21:01

Edited by ecain63 on Friday 19th March 22:15

[HarryW]

Strange if you access to the site linked it says the 111.0067 is from 1962-1971, I would proffer you should get the actual date from the movement serial number as being a 1962 variant will be better for resale rather than 1971 imhe;

Details from site are:-
[i]De Ville
Gents' leather strap
Reference

BA 111.0067
International collection

1962
Movement

* Type: Manual winding (mechanical)
* Caliber number: 620
* Superflat
Created in 1960
17 jewels

Case

18K solid yellow gold
Case back

* Press-in
* Full metal

Dial

Solid gold with hand-rivetted gold hour markers and gold hands.
Crystal

Hesalite
Bracelet

Leather
Water resistance

No[/i]

More product information

Case : round (33 mm diameter), 18K solid yellow gold
For leather straps of 17 mm lug-size
International Collection : 1962-1971
Swiss retail price (1967) : CHF 495.-
Also available in 18K solid pink gold (BB, CHF 495.-) or 18K solid white gold (BC, CHF 670.-).
Later replaced by ref. 111.077
JLM
/end

tbh without opening it up are you sure its a 111.067 as it could just as easily be a 111.0077 or 111.0107 by the external looks and thus anything up to a 1981 watch..................

[ecain63]

Im a jeweller by trade and ive had the back off already. Its definately a 111.067. As for exact date, where would i find it?

Edited by ecain63 on Wednesday 17th March 20:34

[HereBeMonsters]

I would say that estimate is massively optimistic. I recently sold a very similar watch (albeit in stainless steel) for a tenth of that. Maybe it would be worth more for the gold value, but I tend to see silver-coloured watches sell better these days...

[HarryW]

ecain63 said:

Im a jeweller by trade and ive had the back off already. Its definately a 111.067. As for exact date, where would i find it?

Edited by ecain63 on Wednesday 17th March 20:34

the obvious thing as its 18k is the hall mark.........

Ok then assuming its not solid gold the way to tell is by the movement. Simply the movement type and year should match for the watch model number. It will have the movement type number stamped next to the Omega symbol, obviously in this case it should be a 620 movement if it is the right type for the case number. The serial number of the movement then dates it, again on the site link given there is a pdf with serial numbers against manufacturing years from 1894 -1998 for all Omega watches. The serial number will be between 19,xxxxxx (19 million) for 1962 and 33,xxxxxx for 1971 with 1 million between each year. ihth

[ecain63]

HarryW said:

ecain63 said:

Im a jeweller by trade and ive had the back off already. Its definately a 111.067. As for exact date, where would i find it?

Edited by ecain63 on Wednesday 17th March 20:34

the obvious thing as its 18k is the hall mark.........

Ok then assuming its not solid gold the way to tell is by the movement. Simply the movement type and year should match for the watch model number. It will have the movement type number stamped next to the Omega symbol, obviously in this case it should be a 620 movement if it is the right type for the case number. The serial number of the movement then dates it, again on the site link given there is a pdf with serial numbers against manufacturing years from 1894 -1998 for all Omega watches. The serial number will be between 19,xxxxxx (19 million) for 1962 and 33,xxxxxx for 1971 with 1 million between each year. ihth

Thanks for the info. It is solid gold, halmarked 750. I'll have a look tommorrow at the movement for the date but i can confirm that the movement us a type 620.

[ecain63]

Ok, checked the movement today and it had a 31xxxxxxxxx number on it so im assuming its a 1969 model. Removed the tarnishing too so its now officially immaculate. Just needs a new strap and it'll be mint.

[HarryW]

seems about right.
What's the markings to the left and right of the 'swiss made' at the bottom. I suspect the dial is 18k gold too, if so it will also be hall marked on the back but a watch maker would have to lift the movement to see.

[ecain63]

The markings read 'OM SWISS MADE OM' (assuming OM meaning Omega???). The dial, hands and numerals are solid 18ct gold and the dial face is 'brush finish'. So all in the only base metal item is the mechanism.

Edited by ecain63 on Saturday 20th March 17:53

[HarryW]

ecain63 said:

The markings read 'OM SWISS MADE OM' (assuming OM meaning Omega???). The dial, hands and numerals are solid 18ct gold and the dial face is 'brush finish'. So all in the only base metal item is the mechanism.

Edited by ecain63 on Saturday 20th March 17:53

You'd think that wouldn't you, but OM was used by Omega to denote 'O'r Massif' meaning solid gold or in this case 18k, as I said earlier it will be hall marked on the reverse.
The guilloche finish to it is similar to the 'de luxe' used on some of the top of the range Constellations at that time.

[ecain63]

So what should i be asking for it then, given the info provided?

[miket49]

I have the same watch in 9ct gold which my father bought me early in 1970. I still have the original receipt, guarantee and in fact the Omega catalogue featuring the watch. It cost £50 when it was bought, new. It was certainly available from good jewellers during the eary to mid 70's (costing about £300 in 1973, which I thought was a good investment!)

Edited by miket49 on Tuesday 14th September 08:37

Edited by miket49 on Tuesday 14th September 17:45

[Ironballs]

I have the steel Seamaster De Ville, paid about 200 quid for it a few years ago. Nice watches

[Glosphil]

I have a watch which looks identical except for two differences - it has a date window at the 3 o'clock position and is a De Ville Quartz. My father bought it around 1970, I think. Condition is excellent although it has a replacement gold brachlet style strap fitted. Any idea of value? I was told about £800 in 2000 but think that is rather optimistic even now.

[MADT350]

i have a 1960's 9 or 18 K,(no sure) omega de ville which i think is the same that was my grandfathers, please see pics, did you ever sell it and what price did you get if you don't mind me asking

Edited by MADT350 on Wednesday 13th October 17:18