Vintage Breitling Navitimer Back From Overhaul
Vintage Breitling Navitimer Back From Overhaul
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Stefan SRT8

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3,619 posts

222 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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I'm sure I mentioned somewhere in another thread I was waiting for my 1969 vintage Breitling to come back from Breitling UK following a full overhaul, well it's back, it wasn't cheap (£1,169) but they did a fantastic job on it!













Remember, this is what it was like.....................



Stef

Podie

46,647 posts

299 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Bloody hell... looks fantastic.

May I ask how much you paid for it initially?

Stefan SRT8

Original Poster:

3,619 posts

222 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Podie said:
Bloody hell... looks fantastic.

May I ask how much you paid for it initially?
I paid £1,00 for it. It was working but loosing time badly.

Stef

Podie

46,647 posts

299 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Stefan SRT8 said:
Podie said:
Bloody hell... looks fantastic.

May I ask how much you paid for it initially?
I paid £1,00 for it. It was working but loosing time badly.

Stef
So a shade over 2k. Bargain, IMO.

Stefan SRT8

Original Poster:

3,619 posts

222 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Yes, it's a keeper too as it's my birth year and will be passed down to my Son in a good few years!!

Stef

Podie

46,647 posts

299 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Looking for a birth year watch next... smile

Beachbum

2,597 posts

255 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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That ispossibly thes nicest Breitling I have seen to date.

Stefan SRT8

Original Poster:

3,619 posts

222 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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It's a big old beast too, 48mm diameter, quite thin though so it wears well.

Stef

tonytifoso

1,385 posts

247 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Stunning! yes

GTIR

24,741 posts

290 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Hmmm nice!

Breitlings are my favourite watches, however, that's a bit large for my personal tastes, what with my danty wrists. hehe Saying that, it looks stunning! lick

Getting a Rado Jubile and/or Raymond Weil Don Giovani within the next couple of weeks. I'll post pics of course

Spice_Weasel

2,335 posts

277 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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I love the size. I have its little (39mm) brother:


GTIR

24,741 posts

290 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Spice_Weasel said:
I love the size. I have its little (39mm) brother:

scratchchin

smile

Ti22

290 posts

197 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Looks as good as new. You've got to be happy with that!

Stefan SRT8

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3,619 posts

222 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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NeMiSiS said:
Perfect, money well spent.

Are they all lefties, or have you managed to get a limited run ?
All of the early Chrono-Matics were lefties, not sure when they reverted back to the other side though.

Stef

Spice_Weasel

2,335 posts

277 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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The early ones were all lefties as they used the Calibre 11 movement. Some digging and googling revealed the following info though the link I have to the information is now dead. Luckily I copied it into a Word doc and kept it.

The Race
The 1960s saw the race towards the development of the world’s first automatic chronograph movement, with two groups of watchmakers in competition to achieve this milestone. The groups of Movado/Zenith (further referred to as M/Z) and Heuer/Breitling/Hamilton/Dubois Depraz (further referred to as H/B/H/DD) achieved their aims independently and exhibited their new developments at the Basel Fair in 1969. Both claimed to be the first to introduce the automatic chronograph movement, however, the Caliber 11 movement of H/B/H/DD had beaten the M/Z group by over a month.

Heuer/Breitling/Hamilton/Dubois Depraz
The main competition of M/Z came from the amalgamation of the chronograph specialists Breitling and Heuer-Leonidas with Hamiliton-Bruen and Dubois Depraz, who started the development of their project in 1965. When the delegation of the four houses met together for the first time in 1965, they were so obsessed with keeping things quiet that they gave their project a confidential code name: 99. During this meeting, the role each house would play was distributed in utter secrecy. Bruen would be in charge of the special automatic mechanism (adapted from Bruen’s "Intramatic" caliber: Planetary rotor of heavy winding in both directions via gliding pinion); Dubois-Depraz would be responsible for the chronographic module (chronograph unit 8510 with coulisse-lever switching, equipped with a 12-hour and a 30-minute counter) as well as the oscillating pinion invented by Edouard Heuer. Breitling and Heuer would develop the other components and oversee the design of the watch dial and case.

By 1968, the group had carried out the first conclusive tests and developed experimental prototypes. The winding-mechanism and the caliber 11 chronograph, the ‘chrono-matic’ measuring 13 ¾ lines (31 mm in diameter) and 7.7 mm in height, worked marvellously well, even under extreme conditions, with an accuracy close to the norms required of a chronometer. The world’s first automatic chronograph (developed at a total cost of 500,000 Swiss francs) was officially unveiled on March 3rd 1969, over a month before the Basel fair where the ‘El Primero’ was introduced. Named ‘Chrono-matic’, the movement was used in several models by the developers. Heuer used the movement in the ‘Monaco’, ‘Carrera’ and ‘Autavia’ models, Breitling in the ‘Chrono-matic’ models and Hamilton/Bruen in several models.

The Caliber 11
Beating at 19,800 bps, ‘Chrono-matic’ consists of a basis movement unit and a chrono-section unit. These two units are attached with screws, one on top of the other. The design required that the winding stem with the crown had to be removed to the position of the 9. Although a surprising innovation, it seems that all the firms agreed that this would be the best. Since this watch does not often need to be wound up by hand, it follows that the chronograph buttons would be better located on the right side of the case.

A suitable winding mechanism is required for this automatic chronograph. The heavy microrotor that winds the mainspring is housed in the basic movement and has a pointed dead angle of only 11 degrees, which means that even relatively inactive wearers can always depend on the watch being wound up. In addition, a special regulator setting was developed for the watch, with eccentric setting and moveable spiral block, which allow precise regulation and the smallest error in the timing. These developments are also patented.

Later versions of the Caliber 11:
The difference between the caliber 11 and 12 lies with the beats. The Caliber 12, which is an updated version, beats faster at 21,600 bps. The later versions from Heuer and Breitling are the caliber 14 and 15, some with 3 registers instead of 2.







Edited by Spice_Weasel on Friday 22 October 16:13

Spice_Weasel

2,335 posts

277 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Exploded view of the calibre 11 movement with the chronograph section removed


German language advert for the Chrono-Matic range

LukeBird

17,170 posts

233 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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That is an absolutely stunning refurb Stefan! thumbup

hilly10

7,512 posts

252 months

Friday 22nd October 2010
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Very nice and a great price looks stunning

andy_s

19,816 posts

283 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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No mention of Seiko in the auto-chrono race...? smile


The back of Guinands Buren 12 out of interest - hidden micro-rotor:


Edited by andy_s on Saturday 23 October 09:51

MarkoNoTVR

1,139 posts

258 months

Saturday 23rd October 2010
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lick.......yum.......cloud9