X-37 Military Space Shuttle
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NailedOn

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Saturday 7th May 2011
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I spent the evening at Kielder Observatory last week, where one of the astronomers said they had recently view X-37 docking with the ISS.
Apparently this is an unmanned US military shuttle made by Boeing.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_X-37#X-37B_Orb...

Google reveals a certain amount about X37, but what else is known, and are there other low key or secret spacecraft?

Eric Mc

124,901 posts

289 months

Saturday 7th May 2011
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What IS known is that is has never docked with the International Space Station.

It's a US military project and nothing to do with the ISS. It is also in a totally different orbit from the ISS and would not be able to dock with the ISS.

There are LOTS of military spacecraft - all unmanned. In the last 12 weeks the US has launched SEVEN military payloads. The US military has far more space launches than NASA and has a bigger budget.

Waynester

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274 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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My 1st thought after reading the title to this thread was of 'Discovery' all painted up in camo paint...

Though why have no idea.. Not much call for full camo in space! rolleyes

davepoth

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223 months

Sunday 8th May 2011
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Eric Mc said:
What IS known is that is has never docked with the International Space Station.

It's a US military project and nothing to do with the ISS. It is also in a totally different orbit from the ISS and would not be able to dock with the ISS.

There are LOTS of military spacecraft - all unmanned. In the last 12 weeks the US has launched SEVEN military payloads. The US military has far more space launches than NASA and has a bigger budget.
Even if it was to dock with the ISS they would have quite a problem keeping it a secret from the three Russians and one Italian currently aboard.

Hooli

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224 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Waynester said:
My 1st thought after reading the title to this thread was of 'Discovery' all painted up in camo paint...

Though why have no idea.. Not much call for full camo in space! rolleyes
Matt black with white spots? obviously no star gazers would spot that the 'stars' where wrong...

scubadude

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221 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Waynester said:
My 1st thought after reading the title to this thread was of 'Discovery' all painted up in camo paint...

Though why have no idea.. Not much call for full camo in space! rolleyes
No need for Camo, just switch the cloaking on!

jmorgan

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308 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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davepoth said:
Eric Mc said:
What IS known is that is has never docked with the International Space Station.

It's a US military project and nothing to do with the ISS. It is also in a totally different orbit from the ISS and would not be able to dock with the ISS.

There are LOTS of military spacecraft - all unmanned. In the last 12 weeks the US has launched SEVEN military payloads. The US military has far more space launches than NASA and has a bigger budget.
Even if it was to dock with the ISS they would have quite a problem keeping it a secret from the three Russians and one Italian currently aboard.
Or people that take pics of the ISS. I believe there are people out there who track this for fun?

Ewan S

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251 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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So 7 launches in 12 weeks. Tin foil hat time, or the reason they were finally able to find bin laden? Just what exactly are they doing up there?

Eric Mc

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Monday 9th May 2011
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Ewan S said:
So 7 launches in 12 weeks. Tin foil hat time, or the reason they were finally able to find bin laden? Just what exactly are they doing up there?
Just upgrading and replacing older equipment and systems that need replacing. Satellites don't function forever.

rhinochopig

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222 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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Ewan S said:
So 7 launches in 12 weeks. Tin foil hat time, or the reason they were finally able to find bin laden? Just what exactly are they doing up there?
At a total guess it could be GPS sats that are being launched. The US system was marginal for coverage last year - they only had a few more than needed - and of what was left many were getting towards EoL. There was talk of the programme for replacement getting more funding to speed it up.

Eric Mc

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289 months

Monday 9th May 2011
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It's been a combination of different satellites - some actual eavesdropping/spying - some communication - and the X-37 test flight which is part of a research programme for a possible military Shuttle.

neil_bolton

17,113 posts

288 months

Tuesday 10th May 2011
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Eric Mc said:
It's been a combination of different satellites - some actual eavesdropping/spying - some communication - and the X-37 test flight which is part of a research programme for a possible military Shuttle.
Often satellites are plonked up there for short period intensive defined monitoring/intel purposes - they're specifically to drop out after a few weeks - so the concept of the feverish activity over Pakistan could be valid.

Eric Mc

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289 months

Tuesday 10th May 2011
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Interesting video and explanation of the latest Atlas 5 GEO1 USAF flight from last week,

http://spaceflightnow.com/

NASA has had it. This is where the American launcher action is now.

NailedOn

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Wednesday 11th January 2012
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rhinochopig

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222 months

Thursday 12th January 2012
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NailedOn said:
So no opening jaws at the front to swallow smaller spacecraft [disappointed].

NailedOn

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Friday 13th January 2012
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"All in the name of science." Apparently...
Begs the question as to why the USAAF is running it and not NASA.

(No sign of Blofeld, Jaws or 007 mind!)

Eric Mc

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Friday 13th January 2012
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The USAAF ceased to exist in 1947?) The USAF came into existence to replace it that year.

The X-37 was originally a NASA project but diminishing budgets meant they had to halt the testing of the concept. The Department of Defense (DoD) stepped in and took it over and are now running the project.

The DoD has had a bigger space budget than NASA for most of the last 40 years. Indeed, the now retired Space Shuttle would not even have been built if it hadn't been part of a DoD requirement.

NailedOn

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Monday 16th January 2012
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Eric Mc said:
The USAAF ceased to exist in 1947?) The USAF came into existence to replace it that year.

The X-37 was originally a NASA project but diminishing budgets meant they had to halt the testing of the concept. The Department of Defense (DoD) stepped in and took it over and are now running the project.

The DoD has had a bigger space budget than NASA for most of the last 40 years. Indeed, the now retired Space Shuttle would not even have been built if it hadn't been part of a DoD requirement.
USAAF/USAF. They look nearly the same on those old movies on BBC2!

Nice photo of X-37B inside the Atlas 5 rocket. (Courtesy of USAF.)



Eric Mc

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Tuesday 17th January 2012
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NailedOn said:
USAAF/USAF. They look nearly the same on those old movies on BBC2!
People often confuse the two - but they are quite different.

glazbagun

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221 months

Monday 8th May 2017
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It's landed again. Have been reading the wiki on this thing- it's up there for over a year sometimes. What can it be doing? Satellite imagery at short notice? Intercepting/interfering with satellite coms? Messing with NK's rocket program?