NPPL in Scotland

[Lefty]

Anybody know anything about these guys?

http://www.cabroaviation.co.uk/training.html

[Fume troll]

Nope. I trained in Dyce but that was a loooong time ago.

Cheers,

FT.

[Chuck328]

Fume troll said:

Nope. I trained in Dyce but that was a loooong time ago.

Cheers,

FT.

How long ago?

[Lefty]

Didn't know you were a pilot FT. Still fly?

A mate of mine trained at Dalcross a few years back but ABZ is much closer for me.

Edited by Lefty on Tuesday 17th May 07:37

[Fume troll]

About 20 years ago! 1992 I think. I went all through school thinking I wanted to be a pilot, and saved up enough money to train myself. I really enjoyed it but I started to realise I didn't want to do it as a job. It was about the time BA were laying off trainees too, so quite uncertain times in the industry. Probably the norm really! It was also about then that my instructor was killed along with another student; crashed into Loch Muick. So I stopped and went to uni instead.

No, I don't really fly anymore, just the occasional hour here and there. Very occasionally think I'd like to get back into it...but I'm more interested in helicopters! I think if I was going to learn today I'd be tempted to do it overseas.

Cheers,

FT

[Lefty]

Cheers, I have about 8 hours AEF from donkeys years ago, am just thinking of NPPL rather than full PPL (or SEA as i think it's called now) as I'm colourblind and would just be flying for fun...

There's also a convenient 500m grass strip a few miles from my house.

Choppers eh? I had a goin a very old helicopter simulator a few eyars back (so old it had a twist-grip throttle on the collective). Difficult but very rewarding i would imagine. Much more expensive that fixed wing too!

[eharding]

Lefty said:

Cheers, I have about 8 hours AEF from donkeys years ago, am just thinking of NPPL rather than full PPL (or SEA as i think it's called now) as I'm colourblind and would just be flying for fun...

There's also a convenient 500m grass strip a few miles from my house.

Choppers eh? I had a goin a very old helicopter simulator a few eyars back (so old it had a twist-grip throttle on the collective). Difficult but very rewarding i would imagine. Much more expensive that fixed wing too!

Colour-blindness shouldn't necessarily preclude you from getting a PPL (vs. NPPL), but might well rule out a night qualification or full instrument rating. Not that either of those need be a primary concern if your goal is flying for fun.

[Lefty]

Mmmm, interesting. I only have red/green colour blindness. As you say, for fun flying, VFR would be fine for 99% of the time.

I'm a little confused about the 450kg MTO weight (which, IIRC, is the old PPL(m) rating?), does NPPL automatically give you 2000kg?

[eharding]

Lefty said:

Mmmm, interesting. I only have red/green colour blindness. As you say, for fun flying, VFR would be fine for 99% of the time.

I'm a little confused about the 450kg MTO weight (which, IIRC, is the old PPL(m) rating?), does NPPL automatically give you 2000kg?

You've probably already found it, but

http://www.nationalprivatepilotslicence.co.uk/

gives you chapter and verse. The NPPL SSEA will allow you to fly up to 2000kg MTOW, day visual met conditions, with retractable/tailwheel/wobbly prop available with differences training.

Quite where the NPPL goes after EASA have finished rampaging about isn't clear, but you might end up being restricted to LAA or CAA Permit types - but not for a year or so at least.

[Lefty]

Thanks for the link, yes I had seen that site.

And the CAA website has more acronyms than the oil industry

I might pop into the guys at ABZ and speak to themin a bit more detail, think NPPl with microlight ratign would probably be a good place to start, 450kg is pretty limiting though, I'm 95kg...

[Mojocvh]

Fume troll said:

About 20 years ago! 1992 I think. I went all through school thinking I wanted to be a pilot, and saved up enough money to train myself. I really enjoyed it but I started to realise I didn't want to do it as a job. It was about the time BA were laying off trainees too, so quite uncertain times in the industry. Probably the norm really! It was also about then that my instructor was killed along with another student; crashed into Loch Muick. So I stopped and went to uni instead.

No, I don't really fly anymore, just the occasional hour here and there. Very occasionally think I'd like to get back into it...but I'm more interested in helicopters! I think if I was going to learn today I'd be tempted to do it overseas.

Cheers,

FT

Gliding, even circuits, is very good practise and you get to do loads of the IMPORTANT ground interface stuff....