RAF Puma down near Anover...
Discussion
thatone1967 said:
looks like the view from the back of our house.... lets hope not.Low flying military copters over us every day.
tty Bellender so get to see lots of these.Never fly in anything whose propellers don't face the direction of travel
When your wings are moving faster than your fuselage, there's something unnatural going on.
The man who invented helis deliberately put wheels skids AND floats on them because he was never sure where they would come down!
Anything that screws it's way into the sky flies according to unnatural principals.
And, finally, remember success only depends on the one nut holding that big fan on the roof....and that was probably made by the company that put in the lowest quote!
You never want to sneak up behind an old high-time helicopter pilot and clap your hands. He will instantly dive for cover and most likely whimper... then get up and smack you.
There are no old helicopters sitting around airports like you see old airplanes. There is a reason for this. Come to think of it, there are not many old high-time helicopter pilots hanging around airports either, so the first issue is problematic.
You can always tell a helicopter pilot in anything moving-a train, an airplane, a car or a boat. They never smile... they are always listening to the machine and they always hear something they think is 'not right.' Helicopter pilots fly in a mode of intensity, actually more like being "spring loaded," while waiting for pieces of their ship to fall off.
Flying a helicopter at any altitude over 500 feet is considered reckless and should be avoided. Flying a helicopter at any altitude or Condition that precludes a landing in less than 20 seconds is considered outright foolhardy.
Remember, in a helicopter you have about 1 second to lower the collective after an engine failure before it becomes unrecoverable. Once you've failed this maneuver the machine flies about as well as a 20 case Coke machine. Even a perfectly executed autorotation only gives you a glide ratio slightly better than that of a brick. 180 degree autorotations are a violent aerobatic maneuver that in my opinion should be avoided.
While hovering, if you start to sink a bit, you pull up on the collective while twisting the throttle, push with your left foot (more torque) and move the stick left (more translating tendency) to hold your spot. If you now need to stop rising, you do the opposite in that order. Sometimes, in wind, you do this many times each second. Don't you think that's a strange way to fly?
Any remotely aerobatic maneuver should be avoided. Don't push your luck. It will run out soon enough anyway.
If everything is working fine on your helicopter consider yourself temporarily lucky. Something is about to break.
Airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to.
When your wings are moving faster than your fuselage, there's something unnatural going on.
The man who invented helis deliberately put wheels skids AND floats on them because he was never sure where they would come down!
Anything that screws it's way into the sky flies according to unnatural principals.
And, finally, remember success only depends on the one nut holding that big fan on the roof....and that was probably made by the company that put in the lowest quote!
You never want to sneak up behind an old high-time helicopter pilot and clap your hands. He will instantly dive for cover and most likely whimper... then get up and smack you.
There are no old helicopters sitting around airports like you see old airplanes. There is a reason for this. Come to think of it, there are not many old high-time helicopter pilots hanging around airports either, so the first issue is problematic.
You can always tell a helicopter pilot in anything moving-a train, an airplane, a car or a boat. They never smile... they are always listening to the machine and they always hear something they think is 'not right.' Helicopter pilots fly in a mode of intensity, actually more like being "spring loaded," while waiting for pieces of their ship to fall off.
Flying a helicopter at any altitude over 500 feet is considered reckless and should be avoided. Flying a helicopter at any altitude or Condition that precludes a landing in less than 20 seconds is considered outright foolhardy.
Remember, in a helicopter you have about 1 second to lower the collective after an engine failure before it becomes unrecoverable. Once you've failed this maneuver the machine flies about as well as a 20 case Coke machine. Even a perfectly executed autorotation only gives you a glide ratio slightly better than that of a brick. 180 degree autorotations are a violent aerobatic maneuver that in my opinion should be avoided.
While hovering, if you start to sink a bit, you pull up on the collective while twisting the throttle, push with your left foot (more torque) and move the stick left (more translating tendency) to hold your spot. If you now need to stop rising, you do the opposite in that order. Sometimes, in wind, you do this many times each second. Don't you think that's a strange way to fly?
Any remotely aerobatic maneuver should be avoided. Don't push your luck. It will run out soon enough anyway.
If everything is working fine on your helicopter consider yourself temporarily lucky. Something is about to break.
Airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to.
Lefty said:
Never fly in anything whose propellers don't face the direction of travel
When your wings are moving faster than your fuselage, there's something unnatural going on.
The man who invented helis deliberately put wheels skids AND floats on them because he was never sure where they would come down!
Anything that screws it's way into the sky flies according to unnatural principals.
And, finally, remember success only depends on the one nut holding that big fan on the roof....and that was probably made by the company that put in the lowest quote!
You never want to sneak up behind an old high-time helicopter pilot and clap your hands. He will instantly dive for cover and most likely whimper... then get up and smack you.
There are no old helicopters sitting around airports like you see old airplanes. There is a reason for this. Come to think of it, there are not many old high-time helicopter pilots hanging around airports either, so the first issue is problematic.
You can always tell a helicopter pilot in anything moving-a train, an airplane, a car or a boat. They never smile... they are always listening to the machine and they always hear something they think is 'not right.' Helicopter pilots fly in a mode of intensity, actually more like being "spring loaded," while waiting for pieces of their ship to fall off.
Flying a helicopter at any altitude over 500 feet is considered reckless and should be avoided. Flying a helicopter at any altitude or Condition that precludes a landing in less than 20 seconds is considered outright foolhardy.
Remember, in a helicopter you have about 1 second to lower the collective after an engine failure before it becomes unrecoverable. Once you've failed this maneuver the machine flies about as well as a 20 case Coke machine. Even a perfectly executed autorotation only gives you a glide ratio slightly better than that of a brick. 180 degree autorotations are a violent aerobatic maneuver that in my opinion should be avoided.
While hovering, if you start to sink a bit, you pull up on the collective while twisting the throttle, push with your left foot (more torque) and move the stick left (more translating tendency) to hold your spot. If you now need to stop rising, you do the opposite in that order. Sometimes, in wind, you do this many times each second. Don't you think that's a strange way to fly?
Any remotely aerobatic maneuver should be avoided. Don't push your luck. It will run out soon enough anyway.
If everything is working fine on your helicopter consider yourself temporarily lucky. Something is about to break.
Airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to.
Shussssh! I hoping to fly in these for a living! hehe. When your wings are moving faster than your fuselage, there's something unnatural going on.
The man who invented helis deliberately put wheels skids AND floats on them because he was never sure where they would come down!
Anything that screws it's way into the sky flies according to unnatural principals.
And, finally, remember success only depends on the one nut holding that big fan on the roof....and that was probably made by the company that put in the lowest quote!
You never want to sneak up behind an old high-time helicopter pilot and clap your hands. He will instantly dive for cover and most likely whimper... then get up and smack you.
There are no old helicopters sitting around airports like you see old airplanes. There is a reason for this. Come to think of it, there are not many old high-time helicopter pilots hanging around airports either, so the first issue is problematic.
You can always tell a helicopter pilot in anything moving-a train, an airplane, a car or a boat. They never smile... they are always listening to the machine and they always hear something they think is 'not right.' Helicopter pilots fly in a mode of intensity, actually more like being "spring loaded," while waiting for pieces of their ship to fall off.
Flying a helicopter at any altitude over 500 feet is considered reckless and should be avoided. Flying a helicopter at any altitude or Condition that precludes a landing in less than 20 seconds is considered outright foolhardy.
Remember, in a helicopter you have about 1 second to lower the collective after an engine failure before it becomes unrecoverable. Once you've failed this maneuver the machine flies about as well as a 20 case Coke machine. Even a perfectly executed autorotation only gives you a glide ratio slightly better than that of a brick. 180 degree autorotations are a violent aerobatic maneuver that in my opinion should be avoided.
While hovering, if you start to sink a bit, you pull up on the collective while twisting the throttle, push with your left foot (more torque) and move the stick left (more translating tendency) to hold your spot. If you now need to stop rising, you do the opposite in that order. Sometimes, in wind, you do this many times each second. Don't you think that's a strange way to fly?
Any remotely aerobatic maneuver should be avoided. Don't push your luck. It will run out soon enough anyway.
If everything is working fine on your helicopter consider yourself temporarily lucky. Something is about to break.
Airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to.
Lefty said:
Never fly in anything whose propellers don't face the direction of travel
When your wings are moving faster than your fuselage, there's something unnatural going on.
The man who invented helis deliberately put wheels skids AND floats on them because he was never sure where they would come down!
Anything that screws it's way into the sky flies according to unnatural principals.
And, finally, remember success only depends on the one nut holding that big fan on the roof....and that was probably made by the company that put in the lowest quote!
You never want to sneak up behind an old high-time helicopter pilot and clap your hands. He will instantly dive for cover and most likely whimper... then get up and smack you.
There are no old helicopters sitting around airports like you see old airplanes. There is a reason for this. Come to think of it, there are not many old high-time helicopter pilots hanging around airports either, so the first issue is problematic.
You can always tell a helicopter pilot in anything moving-a train, an airplane, a car or a boat. They never smile... they are always listening to the machine and they always hear something they think is 'not right.' Helicopter pilots fly in a mode of intensity, actually more like being "spring loaded," while waiting for pieces of their ship to fall off.
Flying a helicopter at any altitude over 500 feet is considered reckless and should be avoided. Flying a helicopter at any altitude or Condition that precludes a landing in less than 20 seconds is considered outright foolhardy.
Remember, in a helicopter you have about 1 second to lower the collective after an engine failure before it becomes unrecoverable. Once you've failed this maneuver the machine flies about as well as a 20 case Coke machine. Even a perfectly executed autorotation only gives you a glide ratio slightly better than that of a brick. 180 degree autorotations are a violent aerobatic maneuver that in my opinion should be avoided.
While hovering, if you start to sink a bit, you pull up on the collective while twisting the throttle, push with your left foot (more torque) and move the stick left (more translating tendency) to hold your spot. If you now need to stop rising, you do the opposite in that order. Sometimes, in wind, you do this many times each second. Don't you think that's a strange way to fly?
Any remotely aerobatic maneuver should be avoided. Don't push your luck. It will run out soon enough anyway.
If everything is working fine on your helicopter consider yourself temporarily lucky. Something is about to break.
Airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to.
BUT...When your wings are moving faster than your fuselage, there's something unnatural going on.
The man who invented helis deliberately put wheels skids AND floats on them because he was never sure where they would come down!
Anything that screws it's way into the sky flies according to unnatural principals.
And, finally, remember success only depends on the one nut holding that big fan on the roof....and that was probably made by the company that put in the lowest quote!
You never want to sneak up behind an old high-time helicopter pilot and clap your hands. He will instantly dive for cover and most likely whimper... then get up and smack you.
There are no old helicopters sitting around airports like you see old airplanes. There is a reason for this. Come to think of it, there are not many old high-time helicopter pilots hanging around airports either, so the first issue is problematic.
You can always tell a helicopter pilot in anything moving-a train, an airplane, a car or a boat. They never smile... they are always listening to the machine and they always hear something they think is 'not right.' Helicopter pilots fly in a mode of intensity, actually more like being "spring loaded," while waiting for pieces of their ship to fall off.
Flying a helicopter at any altitude over 500 feet is considered reckless and should be avoided. Flying a helicopter at any altitude or Condition that precludes a landing in less than 20 seconds is considered outright foolhardy.
Remember, in a helicopter you have about 1 second to lower the collective after an engine failure before it becomes unrecoverable. Once you've failed this maneuver the machine flies about as well as a 20 case Coke machine. Even a perfectly executed autorotation only gives you a glide ratio slightly better than that of a brick. 180 degree autorotations are a violent aerobatic maneuver that in my opinion should be avoided.
While hovering, if you start to sink a bit, you pull up on the collective while twisting the throttle, push with your left foot (more torque) and move the stick left (more translating tendency) to hold your spot. If you now need to stop rising, you do the opposite in that order. Sometimes, in wind, you do this many times each second. Don't you think that's a strange way to fly?
Any remotely aerobatic maneuver should be avoided. Don't push your luck. It will run out soon enough anyway.
If everything is working fine on your helicopter consider yourself temporarily lucky. Something is about to break.
Airplane pilots are open, clear-eyed, buoyant extroverts and helicopter pilots are brooding introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something bad has not happened it is about to.
It is always better to stop, then land rather than land, then stop.
Here endeth the lesson.
wokkadriver said:
It is always better to stop, then land rather than land, then stop.
Here endeth the lesson.
Having been off the end of a runway on 3 (ish) occasions I am tempted to agree.Here endeth the lesson.
BUT
I prefer to land then stop. Stopping in the air is anathema to me!
"Thou shalt maintain thine Airspeed least the ground reach up and smite the!"
Oh, and I don't have to deal with daft things like 'Retreating Blade Stall' nor 'Vortex Ring' (thank the Gods).
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