Leicester crash
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Midair's always hit home with me though due to my close call back in 2008.
I don't really like talking about it much in a public forum.. but a general overview - was diverting around a thunder shower, as were others, and we were passing a rather large visual way point. Just before I was about to turn and change course for the next way point another aircraft came towards us (obviously using the same visual reference point) We descended quickly and all was well.
Thats just a very brief outline, I generally don't give detail of it on a forum because alot of people often either will give an 'armchair expert opinion' or just generally lack understanding.
Thats just a very brief outline, I generally don't give detail of it on a forum because alot of people often either will give an 'armchair expert opinion' or just generally lack understanding.
captainflynn23 said:
I don't really like talking about it much in a public forum.. but a general overview - was diverting around a thunder shower, as were others, and we were passing a rather large visual way point. Just before I was about to turn and change course for the next way point another aircraft came towards us (obviously using the same visual reference point) We descended quickly and all was well.
Thats just a very brief outline, I generally don't give detail of it on a forum because alot of people often either will give an 'armchair expert opinion' or just generally lack understanding.
Welcome to 'armchair expert opinion' or just generally lack understanding university.Thats just a very brief outline, I generally don't give detail of it on a forum because alot of people often either will give an 'armchair expert opinion' or just generally lack understanding.
captainflynn23 said:
..... but a general overview - was diverting around a thunder shower, as were others, and we were passing a rather large visual way point. Just before I was about to turn and change course for the next way point another aircraft came towards us (obviously using the same visual reference point) We descended quickly and all was well.
VRPs can definitely present an increased risk of near misses (or near accidents). Tend to agree with current advice to regard the 'R' as a 'Reporting' rather than 'Reference' point - and not to fly directly overhead. Some blame the increased use of GPS, where we navigate by flying from VRP to VRP. There are various TCAS systems that can be retro-fitted at low cost, and Transair seem to have a new one advertised in their catalogue. But, of course, in close proximity to an airfield, it's indicating all the time, so tends to get ignored.
Geneve, sorry, I addmit to my mistake, when I said reference point, I meant way point as it wasnt near an aerodrome that my situation occured. It was a large mass of water. 
I've never navigated by GPS before but I do feel that alot of pilots in recent years have become too dependant on them.
I've never navigated by GPS before but I do feel that alot of pilots in recent years have become too dependant on them.
I'm always surprised anyone walks away from a mid-air collision TBH.
Do many light air-craft have those rocket chutes fitted these days? The MR team I was in had a briefing on them a couple of years ago with respect to the risk to a rescuer if they haven't deployed. I always thought they seemed a good idea in a second chance way.
Do many light air-craft have those rocket chutes fitted these days? The MR team I was in had a briefing on them a couple of years ago with respect to the risk to a rescuer if they haven't deployed. I always thought they seemed a good idea in a second chance way.
SimoneJ,
Theres alot of armchair experts nowadays - They read a few forums, watch a few youtube vids and they think they have their CPL/IR, ATPL, Instructors rating and work part time as an air accidents investigation branch worker.
Thats why normally when I talk about it, its normally with either friends or other pilots (that normally have had their own close calls so don't pass judgement)
With regards to Chutes, I think that Cirrus aircraft use them but then the aircraft has to be written off afterwards.
Theres alot of armchair experts nowadays - They read a few forums, watch a few youtube vids and they think they have their CPL/IR, ATPL, Instructors rating and work part time as an air accidents investigation branch worker.
Thats why normally when I talk about it, its normally with either friends or other pilots (that normally have had their own close calls so don't pass judgement)
With regards to Chutes, I think that Cirrus aircraft use them but then the aircraft has to be written off afterwards.
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