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Eric Mc

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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I've always been fascinated by the weird and wonderful - and often downright dangerous - test and one-off prototype aircraft that hve been built over the years.

I thought it might be interesting to see what other PHers might have as their favourite or most impressive research aeroplane. There are many to chose from.

I'll start the ball rolling with the rocket powered Heinkel He176. I've just been reading Erich Warsitz's biography. he was the one and only person who ever flew this contraption and it was a pretty hairy litle beast. This is the only known decent photograph of the machine -




anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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Looks like a very aft c of g did it tip forwards when the pilot or fuel got in?

Looks dangerous.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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It was. The wing span was pretty short too.

It was designed for speeds up to 1,000 kmh - so Heinkel genuinely thought that it would be the first supersonic aircraft. They tested models in a transonic tunnel in 1936/37 and were fully confident that it could exceed the speed of sound. It was designed with very thin wings and a bullet shaped fuselage - much like the later Miles M.52 and the Bell X-1.

The main reason why it may not have succeeded was down to the tailfin which indicates to me that it would have been directionally unstable at high speeds. Its other main problem was the extremely limited endurance of the rocket motor - less than a minute. There simply would not have been enough time to take off from the ground and accelerate to the necessary speed. That is the reason why the X-1 was air dropped.
In an emergency, the nose cone was jettisonable - like the Miles M.52.

As it was, the German High Command ordered a stop to the programme on the basis that it was a diversion of resources from the upcoming conflict and it was too dangerous. It ended up in the Berlin Museum and being destroyed by an Allied bombing raid in 1943.

The nosewheel was a ground handling device only. It was essentially a tail wheel design.

LotusOmega375D

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182 months

Thursday 26th January 2012
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OK Eric, what can you tell us about this one? I always loved the odd colour scheme.


Eric Mc

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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It's the Fairey Delta 2. Two of these were built and it was the first aircraft to exceed 1,000 mph in level flight. Later one FD2 was converted into the BAC 221 and fitted with a new wing to replicate the proposed shape of Concorde's wing.

Both aircraft are preserved, the FD2 at Cosford and the 221 at Yeovilton.

The main test pilot for the FD2 was Peter Twiss, who sadly died last year.

Here's the Fairey Delta 1, which was a completely different aircraft.



Edited by Eric Mc on Thursday 26th January 11:09

WestYorkie

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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Didn't the Fairey Delta 2 hold the speed record for a while?
I got a book for Xmas called 'Empire of the clouds' great book and some great pics.

Going to find a pic that's in there.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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WestYorkie said:
Didn't the Fairey Delta 2 hold the speed record for a while?
I got a book for Xmas called 'Empire of the clouds' great book and some great pics.

Going to find a pic that's in there.
It did. A few British aircraft held World Air Speed records in that era, including the Supermarine Swift.

WestYorkie

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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I was going to post about the Hawker mach 2 fighter but realised it never made it from the mock up.
But I've got to say the mock up is gorgeous (eurofighter intakes?).

Eric Mc

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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That wasn't an Experimental nor a Research aircraft (and it was never actually built) so hardly fits into the theme of the thread smile

I'd also like tio discuss some of the non-British protitypes, which were often every bit as weird and eccentric. I think the French were particularly crazy with some of their concepts -


brenflys777

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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WestYorkie said:
I was going to post about the Hawker mach 2 fighter but realised it never made it from the mock up.
But I've got to say the mock up is gorgeous (eurofighter intakes?).
Thanks for posting that picture, never seen that before and its gorgeous!

Eric Mc

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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Its not research
It's not experimental
It was never built or flown


Can we keep on topic?

Another French weirdo -



This one was built and was flown.

perdu

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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Eric Mc said:
Its not research
It's not experimental
It was never built or flown


Can we keep on topic?

Another French weirdo -



This one was built and was flown.
More Eurofighter ancestry there Eric smile

I will sit this out and enjoy

Research and Experimental floats my boat.

Eric Mc

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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It si interesting that a couple of designs from the mid to late 50s featured the chin mounted air intake. I suppose the first operational fighter to have it was the F-16.

I'll put up one last piece of Gallic madness and let someone else have a go.


LotusOmega375D

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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Must be the slowest one to get posted up here...


Eric Mc

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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I believe it could descend fairly rapidly.

LotusOmega375D

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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Famous photo of another UK "what-might-have-been"


LotusOmega375D

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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Here's another from me:



c7xlg

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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How about this one?

LotusOmega375D

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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c7xlg

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Thursday 26th January 2012
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lotusomega... first one look like a sort of B-52 prototype, but fuz is all wrong so it isn't I'm sure!

How about this one as well... very coooool name!