Hold onto your hats, here we go with 575 km/h ----(360 mph)
Hold onto your hats, here we go with 575 km/h ----(360 mph)
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uk_vette

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3,336 posts

233 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Well, there is just no denying China have upped the stakes in the speed regards trains.



http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-04/19/cont...

Now where is UK, ?? Seems any decent project (HS2) is laboured with moaners ?

vette

Simpo Two

92,658 posts

294 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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But the UK is small, full of buildings and a bit skint.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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uk_vette said:
Well, there is just no denying China have upped the stakes in the speed regards trains.



http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-04/19/cont...

Now where is UK, ?? Seems any decent project (HS2) is laboured with moaners ?

vette
Yep - one of the problems with democracy. Remember that the next time someone wants to run a High Speed Limne through your back garden.

mrloudly

2,815 posts

264 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Simpo Two said:
But the UK is small, full of buildings and a bit skint.
So skint we're lending £10 billion to the EU?????

Simpo Two

92,658 posts

294 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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mrloudly said:
So skint we're lending £10 billion to the EU?????
I know; it makes us even more skint.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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mrloudly said:
Simpo Two said:
But the UK is small, full of buildings and a bit skint.
So skint we're lending £10 billion to the EU?????
The operative word is "lending" - with interest.

uk_vette

Original Poster:

3,336 posts

233 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
uk_vette said:
Well, there is just no denying China have upped the stakes in the speed regards trains.



http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-04/19/cont...

Now where is UK, ?? Seems any decent project (HS2) is laboured with moaners ?

vette
Yep - one of the problems with democracy. Remember that the next time someone wants to run a High Speed Line through your back garden.
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Well actually Eric, I thought you, more so than most would have known that the railways pay very good compensation for properties which stand in the way of railways or roads.
In so much, that the Chinese are rather wishing that any new train tracks run through their garden, so they can get a good pay out.

Oh well, live and learn.

Vette

tank slapper

7,949 posts

312 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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uk_vette said:
Now where is UK, ??
The UK railways, as with other things, suffers from being first. We are still using the rail routes that were laid down in the 19th century. They weren't bombed out of existence during WW2, so we are stuck with their legacy and all the problems that brings. Other countries either don't have an existing infrastructure, or have sufficient space that they can just build new with the latest technology.

jains15

1,013 posts

202 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Also I'd be willing to bet that NIMBYs dare not exist in China...

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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uk_vette said:
Eric Mc said:
uk_vette said:
Well, there is just no denying China have upped the stakes in the speed regards trains.



http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/china/2012-04/19/cont...

Now where is UK, ?? Seems any decent project (HS2) is laboured with moaners ?

vette
Yep - one of the problems with democracy. Remember that the next time someone wants to run a High Speed Line through your back garden.
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Well actually Eric, I thought you, more so than most would have known that the railways pay very good compensation for properties which stand in the way of railways or roads.
In so much, that the Chinese are rather wishing that any new train tracks run through their garden, so they can get a good pay out.

Oh well, live and learn.

Vette
And you think everybody should just take the money and bend over?

In China, they just get the "bend over" part of the deal.

Sam_68

9,939 posts

274 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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scratchchin Is it just me, or does that photo look like a very average photoshop of a CGI superimposed on a bit of track at the back of a goods yard somewhere?

In particular, look at how 'sharp' the rear end looks against the track it's sitting on.

Matt Harper

7,025 posts

230 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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mrloudly

2,815 posts

264 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
mrloudly said:
Simpo Two said:
But the UK is small, full of buildings and a bit skint.
So skint we're lending £10 billion to the EU?????
The operative word is "lending" - with interest.
How are we getting the money to "Lend"? As Simpo said, we're (supposedly) "skint"

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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mrloudly said:
Eric Mc said:
mrloudly said:
Simpo Two said:
But the UK is small, full of buildings and a bit skint.
So skint we're lending £10 billion to the EU?????
The operative word is "lending" - with interest.
How are we getting the money to "Lend"? As Simpo said, we're (supposedly) "skint"
It doesn't mean we have no cash reserves.




tontoro

3,516 posts

272 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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uk_vette said:
Well actually Eric, I thought you, more so than most would have known that the railways pay very good compensation for properties which stand in the way of railways or roads.
They don't pay "very good" compensation, they pay what they think the market rate is. NOBODY wants a train line to go through their property - if they wanted to sell at market rate then they could, and not have the hassle of a compulsory purchase on a bit of their land.

I am in favour of HS2, but (like you) it doesn't go through my garden.

tontoro

3,516 posts

272 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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uk_vette said:
Well, there is just no denying China have upped the stakes in the speed regards trains.
TGV made this speed 5 years ago, so not sure china have upped the stakes

crofty1984

17,064 posts

233 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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Eric Mc said:
mrloudly said:
Eric Mc said:
mrloudly said:
Simpo Two said:
But the UK is small, full of buildings and a bit skint.
So skint we're lending £10 billion to the EU?????
The operative word is "lending" - with interest.
How are we getting the money to "Lend"? As Simpo said, we're (supposedly) "skint"
It doesn't mean we have no cash reserves.
Really? I'm skint and I don't have any cash reserves.

perdu

4,885 posts

228 months

Sunday 22nd April 2012
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It occurs rarely but, I am with Sam68 here.

That looks badly shopped to me, the very rusty rail it is "sitting on" shows no sign of a big heavy train darkening its sleepers with shadows/ or any evidence that any kind of vehicle has travelled along it recently.

The front end looks wrong, no reality in sight here.

Lots of perspective but no distance fading either as Sam says...

Impressive speeds for a train though, just don't run it through my area either. It's slipstream might drag next door's cat onto the tracks.

Oh I dunno though wink