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Hi all. Looking at buying the below but not sure on value. Can anyone give some advise??
Thanks
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scarab-28ft-70-MPH-dream...
Thanks
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Scarab-28ft-70-MPH-dream...
Bit more info required. Is it actually a Scarab 28 as they were more often than not single inboard?
I would guess it's not the 28 Excel or XLT and maybe the 30 sport.
Serial numbers of engines would be useful to find their age and if you are buying I would suggest having the compressions checked before handing over cash.
I very much doubt it has CE certification which may be a problem for insurers or not and check that it is VAT paid.
Value wise I would say about right assuming it's an original outboard version and not just standoff plates over the old transom although I would guess you could pick up a single big block version for the same money which may be a bit more desirable.
If you don't know exactly what you are looking at, then get someone who does to do it for you. If you're stuck I can put you in contact with the right sort of people in your neck of the woods.
I would guess it's not the 28 Excel or XLT and maybe the 30 sport.
Serial numbers of engines would be useful to find their age and if you are buying I would suggest having the compressions checked before handing over cash.
I very much doubt it has CE certification which may be a problem for insurers or not and check that it is VAT paid.
Value wise I would say about right assuming it's an original outboard version and not just standoff plates over the old transom although I would guess you could pick up a single big block version for the same money which may be a bit more desirable.
If you don't know exactly what you are looking at, then get someone who does to do it for you. If you're stuck I can put you in contact with the right sort of people in your neck of the woods.
Confusing me a bit whether the engines are worth anything or not. They look like 3 litre offshores and are a counter rotating pair, but that doesn't compute with 1990 I don't think, so they could be a later engine than the boat.
Silly though to look at just the value of the engines as if you took them off you would just have to replace them with something else and that boat is hardly going to like a pair of Verados hanging off the back.
You're right about fuel though Dan I conservatively reckon they will get rid of fuel at a rate around 20-30 gallons per hour each when driven to the limit. Compare that to a big block using 35 gallons per hour at wot and similar levels of power out of a single engine and you can see the attraction of inboard.
Silly though to look at just the value of the engines as if you took them off you would just have to replace them with something else and that boat is hardly going to like a pair of Verados hanging off the back.
You're right about fuel though Dan I conservatively reckon they will get rid of fuel at a rate around 20-30 gallons per hour each when driven to the limit. Compare that to a big block using 35 gallons per hour at wot and similar levels of power out of a single engine and you can see the attraction of inboard.
MOTORVATOR said:
Confusing me a bit whether the engines are worth anything or not. They look like 3 litre offshores and are a counter rotating pair, but that doesn't compute with 1990 I don't think, so they could be a later engine than the boat.
Silly though to look at just the value of the engines as if you took them off you would just have to replace them with something else and that boat is hardly going to like a pair of Verados hanging off the back.
You're right about fuel though Dan I conservatively reckon they will get rid of fuel at a rate around 20-30 gallons per hour each when driven to the limit. Compare that to a big block using 35 gallons per hour at wot and similar levels of power out of a single engine and you can see the attraction of inboard.
Yeah, I'm not a Mercury man but I think they're newer than 1990. I'm just wary that they won't last forever, and a matched pair would be very expensive to replace. You'd be lucky to find a good used matching pair. Silly though to look at just the value of the engines as if you took them off you would just have to replace them with something else and that boat is hardly going to like a pair of Verados hanging off the back.
You're right about fuel though Dan I conservatively reckon they will get rid of fuel at a rate around 20-30 gallons per hour each when driven to the limit. Compare that to a big block using 35 gallons per hour at wot and similar levels of power out of a single engine and you can see the attraction of inboard.
20-30 gallons would be about right I'm sure. Also consider modern four stroke outboards, as the fuel economy on those is now very good. The Yamaha F200 - F250 do between 60 and 70 litres per hour flat out, probably half as much at the old 2 strokes.
danyeates said:
Simpo Two said:
Meh, stick a Yanmar 39 in it... go all week on a tankful (and you'll be able to see where you started)
Lol, the complete opposite of a Q car then!a very useable runabout.
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