How many of you PPLs have gone to NPPL and microlights?
How many of you PPLs have gone to NPPL and microlights?
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Obiwonkeyblokey

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5,400 posts

269 months

Monday 23rd July 2012
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Morning all,

Ive had my PPL for 6 years and for 4 of those owned and ran my own aircraft, a Beechcraft Sundowner. The costs for the amount of flying I was doing became silly so I sold it in 2010.

Recently Ive been looking into flying microlights instead. the modern versions such as the Eurostar and IkarusC42 seem to be able to offer me much more flexibility in terms of flying ( grass strips, cheaper costs). I dont really have an interest in going down the instrument route, Im really just into bimbling with occasional weekend trips away. I fancy Ireland and Le Mans as well and belive the microlights can offer me the opportunity to do these trips subject to weight restrictions.

Have many of you gone from Group A to microlights and if so what have your experiences been like.

TIA


Nightmare

5,279 posts

313 months

Monday 23rd July 2012
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The misses is doing this currently for same reason as you.....ill follow her.
Well I say currently - cant fly again till after Olympics. 2 grand flight transponder my a*rse!
Weather conditions are VERY limiting (maybe obvious but hadn't considered how often you can't get up cos wind too strong. Obviously the newer enclosed and fixed are better but still.....
And it's very little like flying a plane in some respects

Very cool tho smile

mrloudly

2,815 posts

264 months

Monday 23rd July 2012
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Nightmare said:
The misses is doing this currently for same reason as you.....ill follow her.
Well I say currently - cant fly again till after Olympics. 2 grand flight transponder my a*rse!
Weather conditions are VERY limiting (maybe obvious but hadn't considered how often you can't get up cos wind too strong. Obviously the newer enclosed and fixed are better but still.....
And it's very little like flying a plane in some respects

Very cool tho smile
Obviously never flown a CT then? Beats most 150/152 types hands down. In what way is it "very little like flying a plane" ??? As somebody that's currently flying both types
I find that a very strange statement?

Obiwonkeyblokey

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5,400 posts

269 months

Monday 23rd July 2012
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I flew the eurostar yesterday and it was a great little aircraft. Compared very favourably ( other than payload) with the Beechcraft I used to own and run.

Nightmare

5,279 posts

313 months

Monday 23rd July 2012
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mrloudly said:
Obviously never flown a CT then? Beats most 150/152 types hands down. In what way is it "very little like flying a plane" ??? As somebody that's currently flying both types
I find that a very strange statement?
I would have said the entire feel and feedback is very different (flex wing) - don't you? Same as I would say the driving a kart is in some respects very little I've driving a car. The relevant bit of my sentence being "in some respects"

mrloudly

2,815 posts

264 months

Monday 23rd July 2012
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You need to differentiate between weight shift and three axis microlights. Weight shift is a completely different animal to 3 axis.
Having owned both (still own and fly a self built Tanarg) ((G-AVLN G-BVUV previous) for the pure love of flying you can't beat weight shift. For comfort and economy you can't beat a CT/Eurostar or C.42

For "Tea hopping"in comfort, my money would be on a C.T. or Eurostar all day

Obiwonkeyblokey

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5,400 posts

269 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Hi

for the purposes of clarificaton I referred to the Ikarus and the Eurostar in my origianal post. Therefore im looking for feedback from those who have moved from a Group A aircraft to the fixed wing "small plane" type of Microlight. Not the hang glider flexwing type.

thanks

mrloudly

2,815 posts

264 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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I did just that initially and have no regrets. If you think the Eurostar is impressive wait till you try a CT! Most folk use their PPL for weekend jaunts from airfield to airfield or playing around in the local area. If this
is what you're after you can't go wrong with microlight types.

"One reviewer of the CT2K writing COPA Flight in October 2004 described the aircraft as "fast, comfortable, roomy and very capable of long cross country flights for little money" and faulted the aircraft only for its difficulty slowing down from its cruise speed of 130 knots to its final approach speed of 50 knots, requiring careful planning to lose 80 knots between entering the circuit and stabilizing the aircraft on final approach.[1]"

Show me a group "A" with 100hp at 15L/Hr than can achieve these figures. I'm 6'2" and sixteen stone and there's loads of room.

Figures taken from Wiki (I do think it should be in MPH not Knots though)

It's soooo quiet as well!

Dr Jekyll

23,820 posts

290 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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mrloudly said:
Show me a group "A" with 100hp at 15L/Hr than can achieve these figures. I'm 6'2" and sixteen stone and there's loads of room.
What's the payload though? I looked at learning to fly a microlight but if I wanted to take any fuel I'd need a 5 stone instructor.

renmure

4,917 posts

253 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Flexwing flyer here ( so proper flying wink ) but I have noticed a big rise in the number of PPL folk at our airfield who are converting over to the likes of the Eurostar for 3 axis flying rather than the heavier stuff. No real interest to me, but they all seem to gushing in praise of the performance and obvious lower costs.

IforB

9,840 posts

258 months

Tuesday 24th July 2012
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Things like C42's and the like are the future of light aircraft. Cessna's, Pipers etc are just too expensive and don't give any real benefit over the new 3 axis machines.


mrloudly

2,815 posts

264 months

Wednesday 25th July 2012
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Dr Jekyll said:
mrloudly said:
Show me a group "A" with 100hp at 15L/Hr than can achieve these figures. I'm 6'2" and sixteen stone and there's loads of room.
What's the payload though? I looked at learning to fly a microlight but if I wanted to take any fuel I'd need a 5 stone instructor.
Loads of them about, they can't afford to eat on instructors pay!