Iran Air 747 SP
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brenflys777

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2,680 posts

206 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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I saw this in Mumbai earlier today, I didn't realise these were still flying. Nice to see something outside the norm, quite glad we were taking off first though!




davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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Love it. They look a bit like a cartoon 747. I really wouldn't like to fly in it though - they've not been allowed to buy spares for it for decades, so I assume it's held together with string.

anonymous-user

83 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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I've been on that plane smile

brenflys777

Original Poster:

2,680 posts

206 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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I hope its in better condition on the inside wink

FUBMW

39 posts

168 months

Friday 21st September 2012
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She recently had an overhaul in Tehran. Seats and the like reconditioned. Flew her 1 year ago.

Martin43

69 posts

208 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
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Nice pic of something you don't see that often!

There is/was on based here in the UK at Bournemouth quite recently. I seen it at Prestwick a couple of years ago, it looked great compared to your Iran Air example!




anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
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Roop

6,018 posts

313 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
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As already mentioned they really are like a cartoon 747. I had a clandestine poke around around Saddam Hussein's 747SP at Tozeur (TOE) 18 months ago. They seem massively over-engineered for the size/capacity. Great piece of kit.

HoHoHo

15,398 posts

279 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
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DoodoolTala said:
I've been on that plane smile
I've been on an Iran Air 747SP too wink

Boring fact.......

The tail on a 747SP is taller than that on a normal 747 smile

brenflys777

Original Poster:

2,680 posts

206 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
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Max_Torque said:
Wow, thanks for posting that link, I'd never heard of that incident... is it just me or does it have similarities to the AF disaster, loss of SA/unreliable instruments( suspected unreliable here ) confusion and failure to follow SOP's etc followed by in this case enough visual cues to recover..just.

hurstg01

3,220 posts

272 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
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HoHoHo said:
DoodoolTala said:
Boring fact.......The tail on a 747SP is taller than that on a normal 747 smile
Why's that?

HoHoHo

15,398 posts

279 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
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Not sure how you managed to get my quote quoted by someone else..... confused

Quote from wiki... The 747SP had....

simplified flaps and a taller vertical tail[6] to counteract the decrease in yaw moment-arm from the shortened fuselage. The 747SP uses single-piece flaps on the trailing edges, rather than the smaller triple-slotted flaps of standard 747s. The SP was also the first— and until the introduction of the Boeing 777-200LR the only—Boeing wide-body with a wingspan greater than the length of the fuselage.

Wheelrepairit

3,045 posts

233 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
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There is a "private" one of these that comes over mine couple times a yr on its way into stansted.

Owned by a minted Arab who comes shopping in London, his wife's follow in the A340.

1a35

894 posts

237 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
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I have also flown in an Iran Air 747SP.
You are in Iran as soon as you board, so no alcohol but the plentiful supply of caviar makes up for that to some extent.

onyx39

11,349 posts

179 months

Saturday 22nd September 2012
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Wasn't this one of the worlds fastest airliners, on account of having the same engines as a normal 747 but a lot less weight?

V8LM

5,552 posts

238 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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Used to watch these at Ringway in the early 80s. Those and the IL-62. Can't remember what airline used them there.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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Very few airlines used 747SPs when new. It was only those that had long overseas sectors who found them of use - Pan Am, Iran Air and South African Airways were the original customers.

TobyLaRohne

5,789 posts

235 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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Martin43 said:
Nice pic of something you don't see that often!

There is/was on based here in the UK at Bournemouth quite recently. I seen it at Prestwick a couple of years ago, it looked great compared to your Iran Air example!



Thats one I see a wee bit of actually, it's the Qatari Royal Family runaround, they've got a new one (747) on the way.

Edited by TobyLaRohne on Sunday 23 September 09:06

Martin43

69 posts

208 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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VP-BAT is a bit of a weird one. Its owned by Worldwide Aircraft Holdings who are in turn owned by the Qatar government.

However it is based in the UK at Bournemouth? You would think it would be based in Qatar.

The Qatar royal family and government also use the Qatar Amiri Flight which are all fairly new and modern aircraft tha fly in the Qatar Airlines colours.

TobyLaRohne

5,789 posts

235 months

Sunday 23rd September 2012
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Martin43 said:
VP-BAT is a bit of a weird one. Its owned by Worldwide Aircraft Holdings who are in turn owned by the Qatar government.

However it is based in the UK at Bournemouth? You would think it would be based in Qatar.

The Qatar royal family and government also use the Qatar Amiri Flight which are all fairly new and modern aircraft tha fly in the Qatar Airlines colours.
Just a bit of additional information, the Qatar Royals ARE (represented by) the government here...what I'm trying to say is any asset of the Qatar Government is an asset of the Qatar Ruling Family.

The logo on the tail, and indeed the paintjob is Amiri Flights colours, Amiri Flights are not the same finish as Qatar Airways planes.

OFF TOPIC: I had the good fortune to offload at Doha next to VP-BAT and took a picture of it. I later met an Amiri Flights girl who practically started a fight with me because I asked her if she'd been on the 747 and she said that they only have Airbus's I insisted I'd seen one...apparently there was NO WAY I knew what I was talking about apparently because she knew everything about Amiri Flights and there was no 747 in existance that was in Amiri Flights colours...then I got the phone out and she took one look at the picture, called me a dick, and turned around ...hahahaha!