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evotell

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138 posts

167 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Railroad tracks.The U.S. Standard railroad gauge (distance between rails)is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in England ,and English expatriates designed the U.S. Railroads.Why did the English build them like that?Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who builtthe pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used.Why did 'they' use that gauge then? Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and toolsthat they had used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing. Why did the wagons have that particular Odd wheel spacing? Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would breakon some of the old, long distance roads in England , because that's thespacing of the wheel ruts .. So, who built those old rutted roads? Imperial Rome built the first long distance roads in Europe (includingEngland )for their legions. Those roads have been used ever since. And the ruts in the roads? Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, whicheveryone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels.Since the chariots were made for Imperial Rome , they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing. Therefore, the United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches is derived from the original specifications for an Imperial Roman war chariot. In other words, bureaucracies live forever.So the next time you are handed a specification, procedure, or process, and wonder, 'What horse's ass came up with this?', you may be exactly right.Imperial Roman army chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the rear ends of two war horses ... Now, the twist to the story: When you see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, you will notice that there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are made by Thiokol at their factory in Utah. The engineers who designed the SRBs would have preferred to make them a bit larger, but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad line from the factory happens to run through a tunnel in the mountains, and the SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track, as you now know, is about as wide as two horses' behinds. So, a major Space Shuttle design featureof what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system was determinedover two thousand years ago by the width of a horse's ass.And you thought being a horse's ass wasn't important!Now you know, Horses' Asses control almost everything...Explains a whole lot of stuff, doesn't it?

juan king

1,093 posts

218 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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aaaand breathe

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

202 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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evotell said:
Railroad tracks.The U.S. Standard railroad gauge (distance between rails)is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number. Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in England ,and English expatriates designed the U.S. Railroads.Why did the English build them like that?Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who builtthe pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used.Why did 'they' use that gauge then? Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and toolsthat they had used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing. Why did the wagons have that particular Odd wheel spacing? Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would breakon some of the old, long distance roads in England , because that's thespacing of the wheel ruts .. So, who built those old rutted roads? Imperial Rome built the first long distance roads in Europe (includingEngland )for their legions. Those roads have been used ever since. And the ruts in the roads? Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, whicheveryone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels.Since the chariots were made for Imperial Rome , they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing. Therefore, the United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches is derived from the original specifications for an Imperial Roman war chariot. In other words, bureaucracies live forever.So the next time you are handed a specification, procedure, or process, and wonder, 'What horse's ass came up with this?', you may be exactly right.Imperial Roman army chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the rear ends of two war horses ... Now, the twist to the story: When you see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, you will notice that there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are made by Thiokol at their factory in Utah. The engineers who designed the SRBs would have preferred to make them a bit larger, but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad line from the factory happens to run through a tunnel in the mountains, and the SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track, as you now know, is about as wide as two horses' behinds. So, a major Space Shuttle design featureof what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system was determinedover two thousand years ago by the width of a horse's ass.And you thought being a horse's ass wasn't important!Now you know, Horses' Asses control almost everything...Explains a whole lot of stuff, doesn't it?

Galileo

3,147 posts

247 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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evotell said:
Railroad tracks.The U.S. Standard railroad gauge (distance between rails)is 4 feet, 8.5 inches. That's an exceedingly odd number.
Why was that gauge used? Because that's the way they built them in England,and English expatriates designed the U.S. Railroads.

Why did the English build them like that?
Because the first rail lines were built by the same people who built the pre-railroad tramways, and that's the gauge they used.

Why did 'they' use that gauge then? Because the people who built the tramways used the same jigs and toolsthat they had used for building wagons, which used that wheel spacing.

Why did the wagons have that particular Odd wheel spacing? Well, if they tried to use any other spacing, the wagon wheels would breakon some of the old, long distance roads in England , because that's thespacing of the wheel ruts .. So, who built those old rutted roads? Imperial Rome built the first long distance roads in Europe (includingEngland )for their legions. Those roads have been used ever since.

And the ruts in the roads? Roman war chariots formed the initial ruts, whicheveryone else had to match for fear of destroying their wagon wheels.Since the chariots were made for Imperial Rome , they were all alike in the matter of wheel spacing. Therefore, the United States standard railroad gauge of 4 feet, 8.5 inches is derived from the original specifications for an Imperial Roman war chariot. In other words, bureaucracies live forever.So the next time you are handed a specification, procedure, or process, and wonder, 'What horse's ass came up with this?', you may be exactly right.
Imperial Roman army chariots were made just wide enough to accommodate the rear ends of two war horses ...

Now, the twist to the story: When you see a Space Shuttle sitting on its launch pad, you will notice that there are two big booster rockets attached to the sides of the main fuel tank. These are solid rocket boosters, or SRBs. The SRBs are made by Thiokol at their factory in Utah. The engineers who designed the SRBs would have preferred to make them a bit larger, but the SRBs had to be shipped by train from the factory to the launch site. The railroad line from the factory happens to run through a tunnel in the mountains, and the SRBs had to fit through that tunnel. The tunnel is slightly wider than the railroad track, and the railroad track, as you now know, is about as wide as two horses' behinds.
So, a major Space Shuttle design featureof what is arguably the world's most advanced transportation system was determinedover two thousand years ago by the width of a horse's ass.And you thought being a horse's ass wasn't important!Now you know, Horses' Asses control almost everything...Explains a whole lot of stuff, doesn't it?
Fixed that for you without even reading it.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Should have gone with the Irish gauge, shouldn't they (5 foot 3 inches).

Vieste

10,532 posts

189 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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evotell said:
Stuff about trains

duncancallum

982 posts

207 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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I prefer IKB's wide guage.

Papa Hotel

12,760 posts

211 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Most boring thread of the year?

read5458

503 posts

212 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Papa Hotel said:
Most boring thread of the year?
Yea, but now that you're here ....... biggrin

rpguk

4,515 posts

313 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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I thought that was pretty interesting. Is it true?

BlackVanDyke

9,932 posts

240 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Could a mod edit those paragraphs in to the OP, please?

Mobsta

5,614 posts

284 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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evotell said:
blah blah horses arse
I will eat your horse arses with my Tyrannosaurs, unless you come up with 40.85 words beginning with 'para'

ZOLLAR

19,920 posts

202 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Mobsta said:
evotell said:
blah blah horses arse
I will eat your horse arses with my Tyrannosaurs, unless you come up with 40.85 words beginning with 'para'
40.85 words that start with 'para'..

para
parabioses
parabiosis
parabiotic
parabiotically
parable
parables
parabola
parabolas
parabolic
parabolically
paraboloid
paraboloidal
paraboloids
parachor
parachors
parachute
parachuted
parachutes
parachutic
parachuting
parachutist
parachutists
parade
paraded
parader
paraders
parades
paradichlorobenzene
paradichlorobenzenes
paradiddle
paradiddles
paradigm
paradigmatic
paradigmatically
paradigms
parading
paradisaic
paradisaical
paradisaically
paradi


I'm bored in work..

omgus

7,305 posts

204 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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ZOLLAR said:
Mobsta said:
evotell said:
blah blah horses arse
I will eat your horse arses with my Tyrannosaurs, unless you come up with 40.85 words beginning with 'para'
40.85 words that start with 'para'..

para
parabioses
parabiosis
parabiotic
parabiotically
parable
parables
parabola
parabolas
parabolic
parabolically
paraboloid
paraboloidal
paraboloids
parachor
parachors
parachute
parachuted
parachutes
parachutic
parachuting
parachutist
parachutists
parade
paraded
parader
paraders
parades
paradichlorobenzene
paradichlorobenzenes
paradiddle
paradiddles
paradigm
paradigmatic
paradigmatically
paradigms
parading
paradisaic
paradisaical
paradisaically
paradi


I'm bored in work..
clap

Well played. hehe

Mobsta

5,614 posts

284 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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omgus said:
clap

Well played. hehe
You counted them, both of you.
Didn't you.
teacher

omgus

7,305 posts

204 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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No, how bored do you think i am today?

whistle

iva cosworth

44,044 posts

192 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Having read some of OP this thread should have been titled " 2 Horses Arses".nerd


But that would've been locked probablyyes

nothing constructive to add............[no change there then]nuts

Blib

48,009 posts

226 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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Well, I read the OP and it was an interesting read. Though, I now need to lay down as the room is spinning.


rs1952

5,247 posts

288 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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When I was in school (and Supermac was still PM at the time, by the way wink ) we had a teacher who said that the gauge from outer rail edge to outer rail edge was originally 5 feet, then allowing an inch & three quarters for the rails, you got to an inner gauge of 4 feet 8 and a half inches.

Always sounded plausible to me smile

williamp

20,378 posts

302 months

Saturday 20th October 2012
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...especially when you think the first people to use rails were the mines, who used what we would call "narrow gauge" rails with wagons either pushed by child employees or animals. Using a machine to move the coal didnt happen for sometime afterwards. So, in the phrase of the OP:

...So, who knew that the en tire rail network was based on child labour, and should be banned with immediate effect and turned into a high-speed city centre to city centre road network