Silly places to put a "runway" - Papua
Silly places to put a "runway" - Papua
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Moose.

Original Poster:

5,345 posts

270 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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It's been a while since I posted up some of these photos of approaches which I know you lot all enjoy. Now that I'm based in Papua, I've got a lot more to share with you all. Here's a a few to whet the appetite until I locate some even more fun places to land an aircraft:


Pogapa - 5900ft


Doufu - 400ft


Sinak - 6700ft


Agadugume - 8700ft


Alama - 3050ft


Jila - 4100ft


Beoga - 5600ft


Beoga from the ground


Tsinga - 6500ft


Bugalaga - 5700ft


Lumo - 3500ish ft (I think!)

Check out my blog for more updates from the mountains and jungles of Papua cool

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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Great photos Moose!

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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Opens up lots of options for Heathrow's third runway.

Simpo Two

92,662 posts

294 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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Lovely!

MartG

22,753 posts

233 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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Must require some real skill to get into those with any margin of safety !

Chuck328

1,633 posts

196 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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Silly places to put a runway!!!???

Chief, all I ever do is radar vectored ILS onto long flat black stuff, with the occasional autoland/visual/NPA.

Rather jealous of what looks awesome fun....






anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 8th December 2012
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yikes! seems a bit daft that in a few of those cases the only "go around" vector seems to be already occupied by quite a large and substantial mountain..............


Best, make your first attempt count then, no pressure or anything ;-)

Moose.

Original Poster:

5,345 posts

270 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Thanks all. It certainly beats sitting at the desk of my old IT job that's for sure and I can't see myself at the pointy end of a big jet in the near future either. GA is way too much fun!

It's challenging place to work for sure. The density altitude in some of the strips means you're carrying 10-20kts extra groundspeed over a sea level landing, and that's before you add in the average 5-10kts tailwinds that come by late morning.

As for go-arounds, forget it! At a number of the strips, once you're into the valley and on final approach the only option is to land regardless of what happens next. If people or animals decide to enter the airstrip at that point you still have to land. Thankfully most of the locals are aware of the dangers and keep off the airstrips and animals tend to run at the sound of a turboprop bearing down on them.

Edited by Moose. on Sunday 9th December 02:37

Simpo Two

92,662 posts

294 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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This is the smallest runway I've ever landed on - Shenstone Farms in NZ:


davepoth

29,395 posts

228 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Simpo Two said:
This is the smallest runway I've ever landed on - Shenstone Farms in NZ:

That appears to be a corner on the runway?

RealSquirrels

11,327 posts

221 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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we all know that straights are the boring bits and corner are where the fun happens.

The Black Flash

13,735 posts

227 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Cool pics! Reminds me of that film from way back, "Air America" I think?

tenohfive

6,276 posts

211 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Moose. said:

Tsinga - 6500ft
That looks amazing.

sleepezy

2,133 posts

263 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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How are you finding PNG? I did a stint in POM for a few years (1997-2000) but had to travel around a fair bit flying in planes like yours, landing on strips like that.

Also flew into a remote area by helicopter to repossess some bulldozers - which went well until we couldn't get the 'copter to restart to leave... Round 2 of the negotiations was interesting!

Great place once you get out of the POM/Lae.

TheTurbonator

2,792 posts

180 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Great pictures and gorgeous scenary. As you've already said, it must be great fun and a challenge to land at them all.

Butter Face

34,684 posts

189 months

Sunday 9th December 2012
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Great pics, you are a lucky man to be seeing such amazing places!

Thanks for sharing!

ph1l5

5,027 posts

231 months

Monday 10th December 2012
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Great photos, I really want to watch Air America now smile

Moose.

Original Poster:

5,345 posts

270 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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It's about as close as you can get to the flying they did in Air America I reckon. Same aircraft but with less guns wink

Papua is actually part of Indonesia and so in a different country to PNG which is independent. Same island though with the same kind of terrain and naked people; although the locals here are less likely to take pot shots at pilots. They do kick off occasionally over the Indonesian rule but we try to keep out of that as it can get pretty nasty if a bunch of villages all get together and come down from the mountains to storm the one of the main towns. There was a few locals killed the other night just down the road from our house during a recent riot.

Anyway, here's a few more pics for you all, taken from the video I'm putting together filmed mainly with GoPro cameras:






Rower

1,381 posts

295 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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More great stuff thanks !

The Airstrips you land on appear to be without any support facilties ,do you have any radio contact with anyone on the ground prior to your landing, surely you don't just land assuming the strip is clear of any debris or excavations .....

Suppose you had a problem with the aircraft are you able to fettle everything yourself and what about fuel ? So many questions but I am intrigued, are you just shooting vids and pics leaving out the view of a massive facilty lurking in the forest adjacent to the strips !!!


Rower

IforB

9,840 posts

258 months

Tuesday 11th December 2012
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Great stuff.

One of my old instructors was an old PNG hand and he once tool a DC-3 out Bugaluga. Now that is a story worth listening to!