Airbus Gets Order For 100 Planes

[Fishtigua]

Air Asia, the budget airline owned by F1's Tony Fernades, has ordered 100 A320s. Good for British jobs and Europe as well.

http://www.boston.com/news/world/europe/2012/12/13...

[williamp]

ad 200 more orders for Derby's Rolls Royce hopefully

[HoHoHo]

That's a lot of planes

[markmullen]

HoHoHo said:

That's a lot of planes

And a lot of commission for the salesman

[psgcarey]

I would expect these to be built in Airbus' Chinese factory rather than Europe.

[oj113]

psgcarey said:

I would expect these to be built in Airbus' Chinese factory rather than Europe.

I could be wrong but I believe that wings would still be manufactured in Broughton for the Chinese factory, much in the same way that Broughton is supplying wings for the US Airbus factory.

Good for me as my firm has a number of machines onsite in Broughton so need them to keep building.

[dr_gn]

Impressive in isolation, but it's not exactly unheard of, or even that large an order when put in context:

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/orders/index.c...

"You do the math" as they say:

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/prices/index.html

[Manicminer]

psgcarey said:

I would expect these to be built in Airbus' Chinese factory rather than Europe.

Why would you expect that?

The Chinese lot are flat out building for the domestic market.

[Number31]

williamp said:

ad 200 more orders for Derby's Rolls Royce hopefully

A lost opportunity 5 years ago.....

http://www.purepowerengine.com/A320_aircraft_infor...

[Fishtigua]

Number31 said:

A lost opportunity 5 years ago.....

Aren't the Pratts made at the RR factory in Singapore?

[B17NNS]

williamp said:

ad 200 more orders for Derby's Rolls Royce hopefully

Nah, Geely will build the Rolls engines.

[Number31]

dr_gn said:

"You do the math" as they say:

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/prices/index.html

Those numbers bear no resemblance to what the airlinnes actual pay! The only buyers that pay anything remotely like list are Corporate/Business jet buyers everyone else expects massive concessions, especially on a 100 aircraft order,

[Number31]

Fishtigua said:

Aren't the Pratts made at the RR factory in Singapore?

RR do build 50% of the V2500s in Derby but it is unlikely that they would be one of the assembly centres for the PW1000. Both companies do have facilities on the same campus in Singapore though.

RR Trent assembly and test along with wide cord fan blade manufacturing :

http://www.rolls-royce.com/singapore/sg/about/sele...

P&W Repair and Overhaul :

http://www.pw.utc.com/Press/Story/20120215-1500/20...

[VidalBaboon]

Number31 said:

dr_gn said:

"You do the math" as they say:

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/prices/index.html

Those numbers bear no resemblance to what the airlinnes actual pay! The only buyers that pay anything remotely like list are Corporate/Business jet buyers everyone else expects massive concessions, especially on a 100 aircraft order,

These AC will possibly be leased via a 3rd party.

[Steff]

markmullen said:

And a lot of commission for the salesman

Only if he sold the jetseal and gap insurance.

[anonymous-user]

Manicminer said:

psgcarey said:

I would expect these to be built in Airbus' Chinese factory rather than Europe.

Why would you expect that?

The Chinese lot are flat out building for the domestic market.

It's my understanding that the Chinese single aisle factory is for Chinese only.

Given the back log on single aisle at the moment (I think it might be 4 years or so?) I think Airbus be seriously interested in a new single aisle production line somewhere.

[Mojocvh]

coanda said:

It's my understanding that the Chinese single aisle factory is for Chinese only.

Given the back log on single aisle at the moment (I think it might be 4 years or so?) I think Airbus be seriously interested in a new single aisle production line somewhere.

We were worried about cash flow late '09 on 380 program...completed aircraft [no whitetails no interiors] parked up all over Toulouse...

[markmullen]

Steff said:

markmullen said:

And a lot of commission for the salesman

Only if he sold the jetseal and gap insurance.

[Condi]

Number31 said:

dr_gn said:

"You do the math" as they say:

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/prices/index.html

Those numbers bear no resemblance to what the airlinnes actual pay! The only buyers that pay anything remotely like list are Corporate/Business jet buyers everyone else expects massive concessions, especially on a 100 aircraft order,

Does anyone know how massive these concessions are? Are we talking 30%, 50%?

[dr_gn]

Condi said:

Number31 said:

dr_gn said:

"You do the math" as they say:

http://www.boeing.com/commercial/prices/index.html

Those numbers bear no resemblance to what the airlinnes actual pay! The only buyers that pay anything remotely like list are Corporate/Business jet buyers everyone else expects massive concessions, especially on a 100 aircraft order,

Does anyone know how massive these concessions are? Are we talking 30%, 50%?

Whatever it is, it applies equally to Boeing or Airbus. I was commenting on the fact that an order for 100 planes for Airbus isn't really as massive a deal as it sounds when you look a bit further into how the industry works. For example, does anyone know how many aircraft Boeing currently has on order, yet to be built, in total?