Microlight Forced Landing
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Silent1

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19,762 posts

264 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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I've just seen this in the youtube thread but i'm posting it in here to get other people's opinion:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kgpddw6AVYY

To begin with he seems to do a brilliant job by finding a road but it seems that he starts to panic once he was lined and came in far too steep, bounced and then crashed because he was coming down far too fast.
Or is that microlights have an appalling glideslope meaning without engine power he couldn't descend slower and his failure to flare before he impacted terrain a small addition to the impending disaster?

essayer

10,410 posts

223 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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Considering where he was flying, he did a good job of that. I assume they both walked away.

He was already low and over lots of trees, to descend through trees onto a road would be nobody's first choice, and glide performance with a poorly engine would have been quite terrible.

I think just before he landed he tried to move away from the trees on his left and this upset his approach.

IMO the pilot should be proud of that landing.

Chris71

21,549 posts

271 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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Not a pilot, but looks like a pretty good call to me.

On a vaguely related note, my dad used to do a bit of gliding and he had an interesting experiencing when he was out with the instructor. The tow cable snapped at the worst possible moment; too far up to but it back down on the remaining runway and too low to find somewhere beyond. The instructor kicked the rudder over and rotated through 180 degrees in a sort of stall turn and put it down facing the other way on the strip. Must have been exciting.

BliarOut

72,863 posts

268 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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You bring microlights down pretty hard, if you glide them in on a shallow approach there's a risk of the wings tipping and hitting the deck... I've seen it happen, gust of wind and in she dug in and cartwheeled. I learned that day that you know you can roll a microlight end over end and walk away! yikes

Like they say, any landing you can walk away from is a good one... I reckon a couple of feet to the left and he'd have got away with that biggrin

Furberger

719 posts

228 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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youtube comment said:
He managed a fairly smooth landing & given the situation and remained calm, meanwhile Kathy has to be a fking drama queen about it.
Lol

Not knowing anything about flying, I'd be pretty happy if that was my pilot.

tr7v8

7,620 posts

257 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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Looks pretty good to me, Microlights glide like bricks so stretching the glide wasn't an option. I suspect they didn't do much damage either.

completetangent

1,165 posts

181 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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Cripes. I'm guessing Kathy doesn't do microlights anymore.

NSXKeith

190 posts

241 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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tr7v8 said:
Looks pretty good to me, Microlights glide like bricks so stretching the glide wasn't an option. I suspect they didn't do much damage either.
On this point, microlights certainly do not glide like bricks, not at all in fact. Flex wing aircraft are quite draggy but they still glide pretty well. Fixed wing microlights have a tremendous gliding capability.

Re this video, I think the guy did well all things considered; he had to stuff it in because the road ahead wasn't straight. What I think should be taken from this is that if you're going to fly that low you should have decent options should the worst happen.

One of the bonuses with UK microlights is that if you have to conduct a force landing, the impact should be fairly low as the aircraft should not stall above 36kts (even without flaps).

AnotherClarkey

3,698 posts

218 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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Looks like a very good result considering the terrain.

Chucklehead

2,853 posts

237 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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I'm only in training so far from an expert, but I would say that he did fine.

Hindsight would suggest he should've tried to stall it a bit higher n order to scrub off some speed, but no doubt he saw a clear opportunity and wanted it down.

Bloody 2 strokes ;-)

Chucklehead

2,853 posts

237 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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Also, were his brakes on on impact?

tr7v8

7,620 posts

257 months

Tuesday 18th December 2012
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NSXKeith said:
tr7v8 said:
Looks pretty good to me, Microlights glide like bricks so stretching the glide wasn't an option. I suspect they didn't do much damage either.
On this point, microlights certainly do not glide like bricks, not at all in fact. Flex wing aircraft are quite draggy but they still glide pretty well. Fixed wing microlights have a tremendous gliding capability.

Re this video, I think the guy did well all things considered; he had to stuff it in because the road ahead wasn't straight. What I think should be taken from this is that if you're going to fly that low you should have decent options should the worst happen.

One of the bonuses with UK microlights is that if you have to conduct a force landing, the impact should be fairly low as the aircraft should not stall above 36kts (even without flaps).
According to this microlight site these are the P & M figures for their flex. *:1 is not good!
8:1 is what P&M quote for a Quantum so that is 1.5 miles per 1000ft @ 40mph giving you 2m 16 secs or 1m 58ecs @ 46mph per 1000ft