Good old British Seagull (not the bird type)
Good old British Seagull (not the bird type)
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Yachtworker

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1,266 posts

184 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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You have to admire this engine whether you think its good or not, I just like looking at it!

Mine is a SPCL (Silver Century Plus, Long shaft) made in July 1966:




Lets see yours.

TheHeretic

73,668 posts

284 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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You want to see my long shaft?

Yachtworker

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1,266 posts

184 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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Sure, if it's a two stroke and doesn't like starting when hot.

Yuxi

650 posts

218 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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Fond memories of those!

I worked at a Broadland boatyard when I was at school in the 80's, I remember a very confident and cocky man showing me how to start one of these on his yacht so he could take it through the bridge by the the boatyard, the only thing he done wrong was to have a rope that was too long, you can guess the rest but it involved several broken fingers!

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Sunday 6th January 2013
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Stick some wheels on it and do Bonneville Speed Week.

Ayahuasca

27,580 posts

308 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Designed iirc to power some WW2 landing craft thingy.

TIGERSIX

969 posts

260 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Yachtworker said:
Sure, if it's a two stroke and doesn't like starting when hot.
haha I thought these where confined to museums by now used to rebuild these for a "shiver me timbers" type back in the late 70s

dirkgently

2,160 posts

260 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Benjaminpalma

1,214 posts

211 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Horrendous bits of kit! I had one when I was a kid. Unreliable, ludicrously polluting, starting it was almost guaranteed to cause a back injury if cold and multiple injuries at any time!

Just had @ClassicSeagulls follow me (@MatrixLloyd) - it seems there is still a healthy market for these things...

dirkgently

2,160 posts

260 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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Benjaminpalma said:
Horrendous bits of kit! I had one when I was a kid. Unreliable, ludicrously polluting, starting it was almost guaranteed to cause a back injury if cold and multiple injuries at any time!

Just had @ClassicSeagulls follow me (@MatrixLloyd) - it seems there is still a healthy market for these things...
They work and you can fix them with a hammer.

Benjaminpalma

1,214 posts

211 months

Monday 7th January 2013
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dirkgently said:
Benjaminpalma said:
Horrendous bits of kit! I had one when I was a kid. Unreliable, ludicrously polluting, starting it was almost guaranteed to cause a back injury if cold and multiple injuries at any time!

Just had @ClassicSeagulls follow me (@MatrixLloyd) - it seems there is still a healthy market for these things...
They work and you can fix them with a hammer.
The little Yamaha 2hp - the ones with no reverse: just spin the unit round and turn the boat into a fairground ride in the process - never broke down, weighed half as much, had a recoil start, used half the fuel, etc, etc...

Yachtworker

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1,266 posts

184 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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When I was young I had a Suzuki 2.2 like that, all the stickers were taken off the tank so it was stripped down for racing. I actually got our Avon redstart ( it had the wooden floorboards) on the plane with some judicious weight distribution!

But the Seagull just looks better........

s2kjock

1,848 posts

176 months

Wednesday 9th January 2013
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We had a silver century very similar to that in the pic, given to us by a friend who bought it as a back up for the small cabin cruiser/fishing day boat he built. Not sure it ever actually ran in anger, but it was tested.

Think we sold it in the end, but it was a while back.

We had a smaller c 2hp more recent Seagull (looking much the same other than the odd bit of plastic "update") and remember bouncing my way down the Sound of Sleat near the Isle of Skye in a 6 foot dinghy as a 12 year old 30 odd years ago. Still used it as a tender outboard occaisonally 20 years later, but it eventually seized and we weren't able to sort it.

It was an absolute pig compared to the comparable lightweight Jap stuff; very heavy, dripped out of most orifices, didn't like to start from warm (or often cold for that matter), but as you say had the sort of charm that a Series Landrover has and could generally be relied on to work (usually) without us bothering to maintain it.

danyeates

7,248 posts

251 months

Thursday 10th January 2013
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Got a few museum pieces here at work in the workshop. I'll see if I can get some photos.

b14

1,292 posts

217 months

Thursday 10th January 2013
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My father has a vast collection of Seagulls, British Anzanis and other old outboards. No pics here unfortunately but ebay is his primary source of items! As a boy we grew up knowing how to start a seagull - no recoil starter cord makes them a right ball-ache!

jinkster

2,417 posts

185 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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I've heard they are pretty powerful for there size, is that correct?

Always remember seeing my first seagul on the film "Father Goose" with Cary Grant.

Fishtigua

9,786 posts

224 months

Friday 11th January 2013
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I'm not sure what motor it was.



Edited by Fishtigua on Friday 11th January 10:41

J3JCV

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1,266 posts

184 months

Saturday 27th April 2013
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I have been laid up after a minor op and daydreaming about things to do this coming boating season. Now the boat is in the water I was looking for a second hand 5hp LS as an aux thinking the old Silver Century is a bit past its best.
However having been on http://www.classicseagulls.co.uk/ I have had a change of heart, they are opening a base down here and I fancy getting it restored to factory fresh with a modification to run on 25:1 rather than the very smoky 10:1.

Bottom line none of the little 5hp Jap engines really cut the mustard, the Seagull was designed to push a displacement vessel with its man sized prop and is probably less attractive to thieves (never been a major concern thankfully).

Stuartggray

7,703 posts

257 months

Sunday 28th April 2013
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I may be a bit rose tinted here, but I seem to remember Seagull boasting that their engine could be used as a anchor when you stopped. I don't actually remember anyone doing this though, so it could be a fable told to me by my father.

J3JCV

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1,266 posts

184 months

Monday 29th April 2013
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I read that quote somewhere recently too, I'm quite sure that being the anchor was not the design brief initially but they certainly did need to be able to start after total immersion.

There is quite a few websites with a lot of history of the brand which is quite interesting, read this one if you can be bothered http://www.britishseagull.co.uk/history.php or http://www.saving-old-seagulls.co.uk/history/histo...

These pages have certainly rekindled the love for mine!!