Retro 707
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Dr Jekyll

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Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Watching a TV show about Sydney airport and John Travolta has arrived in his private 707 in period Qantas colours.

Now if only someone could afford to buy one of the VC10s the RAF are pensioning off and paint it up in BOAC colours............

motomk

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Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Qantas also have a B707 out at a museum in Country Queensland. They picked it up from Southend airport in the UK, fixed it and flew it back. There is a DVD or video about the story of its return to Oz.
Ironically the RAAF picked up some of the Qantas B707s a long time ago and changed some into tankers. They retired them a good few years ago now. However Omega Air refuelling bought 3 of them from the RAAF in 2011. I believe at least one of them is still flying, not sure on the other 2.
Don't think the ex-Qantas one was used to deliver the RAAF Super Hornets to Oz, but they did use Omega, I remember seeing pictures of the Omega DC10 tanker with them.








Dr G

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Wednesday 9th January 2013
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"Qantas: From the Outback to the World" - can't see a copy online or anywhere on DVD outside Australia mind.

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Qantas' original 707s were short fuselage 138s, which were unique to Qantas.



They were later re-engined with turbofans to become 138Bs.

motomk

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Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Dr G said:
"Qantas: From the Outback to the World" - can't see a copy online or anywhere on DVD outside Australia mind.
Video is called "Southend to Longreach - The Return of the 707"
Here is an ad in oz but I know they send stuff worldwide.
http://www.pitstop.net.au/view/aviation-civil/page...

Eric Mc said:
Qantas' original 707s were short fuselage 138s, which were unique to Qantas.



They were later re-engined with turbofans to become 138Bs.
What would the difference between that and a 720 be?


Qantas are now slowly retiring their B747-400s as well....bit sad...been flying as long as I have been here. Mind you they have 6 special ones that no-one else has that will stay around a while.

I've gone a bit off topic here...Think I have seen at least one VC10 down here at an airshow...bought in some Tornadoes one year....damn the Tornadoes were cool! and loud! hooning around low-level everywhere, just like I remember them when I was in the UK.

Edited by motomk on Wednesday 9th January 15:33


Edited by motomk on Wednesday 9th January 15:34

Eric Mc

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Wednesday 9th January 2013
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motomk said:
What would the difference between that and a 720 be?


Edited by motomk on Wednesday 9th January 15:34
Substantial.

Although the 707-120 series (of which the 138 was specific to Qantas) and the 720 both have short fuselages, there are some significant differences.

The 720s was optimised for medium range operators and was originally targetted at continental US airlines which included (in those days airlines such as United, TWA, Continental and Braniff). The 720 had quite a different wing shape with an extended wing chord near the wing roots and a beefed up undercarriage - to allow it to operate out of smaler airfields).


Some European airlines bought them from new, including Lufthans and Irish International (later merged properly into Aer Lingus).
Here's a nice shot of an Irish International 720s parked at Shannon around 1960.
These were referred to as 720-048s.



Compare it to one of the long fuselage Boeing 707-348Cs operated by Aer Lingus later -


perdu

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Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Nicely informal extra passenger accomodation Eric

You don't get that sort of service anymore





unless they are sort of orangey liveried aeroplanes of course wink


Eric Mc

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Wednesday 9th January 2013
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Flying's for the birds.


HoHoHo

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Wednesday 9th January 2013
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motomk said:
Qantas are now slowly retiring their B747-400s as well....bit sad...been flying as long as I have been here. Mind you they have 6 special ones that no-one else has that will stay around a while.
What are the 6 special ones?

Dr G

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Wednesday 9th January 2013
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motomk said:
Video is called "Southend to Longreach - The Return of the 707"
Good man, birthday list!

motomk

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Thursday 10th January 2013
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HoHoHo said:
What are the 6 special ones?
Just ones they picked up later on with extra range. B747-438ER

onyx39

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Thursday 10th January 2013
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Eric Mc said:
motomk said:
Looks like a 737 with a couple of extra engines strapped on!

Cupramax

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Thursday 10th January 2013
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onyx39 said:
Eric Mc said:
motomk said:
Looks like a 737 with a couple of extra engines strapped on!
That'll be because the 737 was derived from it (and the 727) albeit as you say with 2 less engines.

Eric Mc

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Friday 11th January 2013
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The 707, 720, 727 and 737 have all got a similar fuselage cross section and cockpit shape.

Dr Jekyll

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Friday 11th January 2013
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Eric Mc said:
The 707, 720, 727 and 737 have all got a similar fuselage cross section and cockpit shape.
What about the 757? I appreciate the cockpit shape is very different but wasn't it originally supposed to be based on the 727 fuselage?

Eric Mc

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Friday 11th January 2013
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Yes - similar cross section but different flight deck.