Discussion
Mr. Magoo said:
really well done, touching too. The old boy was utterly courageous and fearless, one of the last true hero's.....all about drones now.
There';e been lots of opportunities for heroes since 1944/45. What about those RAF pilots who flew Canberras right across the Soviet Union in the 1950s?Or Forward Air Controlers acting as spotters in their Cessna Bird Dogs over the Vietnamese jungles?
Eric Mc said:
There';e been lots of opportunities for heroes since 1944/45. What about those RAF pilots who flew Canberras right across the Soviet Union in the 1950s?
Or Forward Air Controlers acting as spotters in their Cessna Bird Dogs over the Vietnamese jungles?
Or Nimrods over Afghanistan. Ancient aircraft, no defensive weapons, no escape system. Or Forward Air Controlers acting as spotters in their Cessna Bird Dogs over the Vietnamese jungles?
Dr Jekyll said:
Eric Mc said:
There';e been lots of opportunities for heroes since 1944/45. What about those RAF pilots who flew Canberras right across the Soviet Union in the 1950s?
Or Forward Air Controlers acting as spotters in their Cessna Bird Dogs over the Vietnamese jungles?
Or Nimrods over Afghanistan. Ancient aircraft, no defensive weapons, no escape system. Or Forward Air Controlers acting as spotters in their Cessna Bird Dogs over the Vietnamese jungles?
To think that bravery is the preserve of the World War 2 generation is extremely unfair to those who have served in post WW2 conflicts and those who serve today.
Eric Mc said:
Absolutely.
To think that bravery is the preserve of the World War 2 generation is extremely unfair to those who have served in post WW2 conflicts and those who serve today.
sorry, wasn't looking for a competition of who/what was the most brave/courageous of military endeavours. Anyone in the armed forces in my view is up there whatever they do. That is a pretty open debate full of individual sentiment and intangibles. To think that bravery is the preserve of the World War 2 generation is extremely unfair to those who have served in post WW2 conflicts and those who serve today.
It was merely pointing out that there isn't many of them left. On the whole veteran airmen of WW2 are incredibly modest and unassuming and I think he epitomises this persona. We live in world where hero/heroine is overhyped and debased. Those honourable brave young men were from a different time with different values.
Eric Mc said:
But they aren't "different". Most soldiers and airmen of today hold similar values to those of yesterday. I really appreciate what the WW2 generation did - but I won't put them on a pedestal above where current all volunteer armed forces are.
Not really facing the same level of threat though are they? 50% losses for Bomber Command during the war, when was the last time the RAF came anywhere near asking that sort of commitment from its personnel? I also work with a lot of ex military types, and I can tell you what the answer would be if asked to make that level of sacrifice again, it would end in "off".However, given the same circumstances (all out war), I believe the population of this country would step up to the plate once again. No true brit likes being told what to do by a bunch of sausage sucking euro types. oh, hang on a minute.
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