777x - Jumbo Killer
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fatboy b

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9,663 posts

240 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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Interesting if this turns out to be true.....

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-10-10/bo...

Eric Mc

124,944 posts

289 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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The 747 has had a fantastic 44 year run. It can't go on forever.

Hugo a Gogo

23,428 posts

257 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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looks much too small

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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I'm sure it's a fantastic aircraft but it's a bit dull that the future in larger passenger aircraft seems to be Airbus and Boeing making similar looking twin jets.

Aircraft Top trumps and aircraft recognition books must be struggling. hehe


brenflys777

2,680 posts

201 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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A lardy triple with folding wingtips.. We might finally have a plane to put on those aircraft carriers! :-)

Engineer1

10,486 posts

233 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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Isn't alot of this about which future model of air travel you subscribe to, Airbus have got hub and spokes the A380 flyng between hubs the smaller aircraft flying the spokes, Boeing are looking more point to point.

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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Engineer1 said:
Isn't alot of this about which future model of air travel you subscribe to, Airbus have got hub and spokes the A380 flyng between hubs the smaller aircraft flying the spokes, Boeing are looking more point to point.


A350 A330? Despite any statements from Airbus, In reality Airbus aren't really subscribing to any different model at all. They have pined their future to the long twin jets too. The A380 is a bit of a white elephant, orders for them have stalled completely.

Sir Fergie

795 posts

159 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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Forgive me lads - but if you need to push bigger more powerful engines on big twin jets - would we end up with a 787 style nightmare if your running bigger and more powerful engines.


Eric Mc

124,944 posts

289 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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Why?

The 787 issue is nothing to do with the power of the engines.

thehawk

9,335 posts

231 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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This could do very well for Boeing. I think the A380 is not selling as well as Airbus predicted and there are many routes that just don't need that size aircraft. It's certainly the workhorse for all the routes that I fly. MEL/LAX/SIN/BKK

2fast748

1,237 posts

219 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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Don't folding wings add a whole layer of complexity/weight/cost that is unnecessary on a passenger plane?

Eric Mc

124,944 posts

289 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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I thought that folding wings had been an option on the 777 from the very beginning.

eccles

14,212 posts

246 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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Nice bit of weight outboard to help with wing flex.

davepoth

29,395 posts

223 months

Tuesday 15th October 2013
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Eric Mc said:
The 747 has had a fantastic 44 year run. It can't go on forever.
To be fair to Boeing, more or less the only thing it retains from the original -100 is the general concept. They've redesigned the fuselage, the wings, the control surfaces, the engines, the interior and the cockpit. Truly a flying Trigger's Broom.

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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2fast748 said:
Don't folding wings add a whole layer of complexity/weight/cost that is unnecessary on a passenger plane?
Well, it is necessary if you want wings bigger than the allowed span at airports.

It's the only solution that would work.

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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el stovey said:
A350 A330? Despite any statements from Airbus, In reality Airbus aren't really subscribing to any different model at all. They have pined their future to the long twin jets too. The A380 is a bit of a white elephant, orders for them have stalled completely.
Add to that the fact that the A380 break even point just keeps getting further away.

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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eccles said:
Nice bit of weight outboard to help with wing flex.
Hmm, that position will be a point of contraflexure as the wings bending stiffness will be greatly reduced at the joint. That'll be a nasty one to sort out, and the gusts won't care about that relatively small increase in weight, so the inertia loading will just increase inboard of the joint and they'll still be using load alleviation measures to control wing bend.

HoHoHo

15,380 posts

274 months

Thursday 17th October 2013
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2fast748 said:
Don't folding wings add a whole layer of complexity/weight/cost that is unnecessary on a passenger plane?
Not necessarily.....



Boeing have already made a call to Screwfix for a next day delivery yes

hehe

Scuffers

20,887 posts

298 months

Monday 21st October 2013
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thehawk said:
This could do very well for Boeing. I think the A380 is not selling as well as Airbus predicted and there are many routes that just don't need that size aircraft. It's certainly the workhorse for all the routes that I fly. MEL/LAX/SIN/BKK
longhaul, the A380 is still the best bus out there, from a passengers perspective, wins hands down over anything.

creampuff

6,511 posts

167 months

Monday 21st October 2013
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Scuffers said:
longhaul, the A380 is still the best bus out there, from a passengers perspective, wins hands down over anything.
Hmmm, I think they suck.