Aircraft within 100ft of each other near miss shocker!!!

[Cyder]

Only vertically, of course the Daily Fail neglect to mention the 3 miles or so they were apart horizontally.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2469197/Tw...

[Munter]

I very much doubt a daily mail reporter would know the difference between left and right, never mind a concept such as horizontal or vertical.

[Chrisgr31]

But according to the articyule they were flying at the same height and the problem was they were converging, it seems that they were 10 miles apart when first told to change direction, but as a result of them both following instructions incorrectly within a minute they were only 3 miles apart. What the article doesn't say is whether they would have actually hit each other but at a cruising speed of over 500mph it wouldnt take them long to do those 3 miles!

[Cyder]

http://news.sky.com/story/1157433/scotland-two-boe...

Christ alive, even Sky News are in on the 100ft thing.

[clarkey]

So they were three miles apart, and it made the news????

[CrutyRammers]

clarkey said:

So they were three miles apart, and it made the news????

3 miles apart, and converging at 7 miles a minute...

[Prawo Jazdy]

So it was a loss of separation for which appropriate corrective action was given and acted upon, albeit with a bit of callsign confusion beforehand. That's not news given that similar events happen regularly and are completely unnoticed by the media. When you read a story about something you know well, written this craply, it makes you wonder whether if all journalism is so cack-handed.

CrutyRammers said:

clarkey said:

So they were three miles apart, and it made the news????

3 miles apart, and converging at 7 miles a minute...

That's like saying you and I are converging at 70mph as I come down the slip road to join the motorway you're on. Even though we're both doing 70, we're probably converging at cycling pace at the most. Looking at the tracks, even with no intervention they would most likely have missed. Then there's TCAS, which adds another line of defence, and hasn't been mentioned because it doesn't fit with the tone of the article.

Edited by Prawo Jazdy on Monday 21st October 17:30

[Ian Lancs]

Prawo Jazdy said:

Then there's TCAS, which adds another line of defence, and hasn't been mentioned because it doesn't fit with the tone of the article.

Would TCAS not have been throwing up TA or maybe even RA at that range? Granted it still needs a pilot to perform the correct actions though

[MitchT]

Surprised the Daily Wail didn't get hold of this.

[CrutyRammers]

Prawo Jazdy said:

So it was a loss of separation for which appropriate corrective action was given and acted upon, albeit with a bit of callsign confusion beforehand. That's not news given that similar events happen regularly and are completely unnoticed by the media. When you read a story about something you know well, written this craply, it makes you wonder whether if all journalism is so cack-handed.

CrutyRammers said:

clarkey said:

So they were three miles apart, and it made the news????

3 miles apart, and converging at 7 miles a minute...

That's like saying you and I are converging at 70mph as I come down the slip road to join the motorway you're on. Even though we're both doing 70, we're probably converging at cycling pace at the most. Looking at the tracks, even with no intervention they would most likely have missed. Then there's TCAS, which adds another line of defence, and hasn't been mentioned because it doesn't fit with the tone of the article.

Edited by Prawo Jazdy on Monday 21st October 17:30

No it isn't. It says they were 10 miles apart, then a minute later were 3 miles apart. That's a bit different to just being 3 miles apart.
If the investigating authority looked into it, then it was obviously close enough to be considered serious. Granted the media make a ststorm out of everything, but it was obviously closer than is considered acceptable.

[anonymous-user]

Ian Lancs said:

Would TCAS not have been throwing up TA or maybe even RA at that range? Granted it still needs a pilot to perform the correct actions though

And TCAS to be fitted and working on both aircraft.