Chinook & Defenders over Hamble
Chinook & Defenders over Hamble
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Sealine South

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534 posts

168 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Hi All

I saw a couple of Chinooks with a couple of L/R Defenders hanging below overhead on Saturday afternoon, about 4:30pm ish.

They were over the Hamble/Swanwick/Warsash area (Southampton). Any ideas where they were going?

Sorry for crap picture (Blackberry) taken whilst in car.


onyx39

11,349 posts

179 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Isle of Wight, helping with the Flood relief effort.
They apparently air lift a load of troops out of a park in Central Reading over the weekend.
Sounds like an expensive way to move troops around... unless they worries about being ambushed on the way into Reading...

smile

Sealine South

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534 posts

168 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Thought something like that. Surely drive them onto the IOW ferry would be cheaper. Whats the chance of one being dropped? Probably slim but in this H&SE world we live in the risk assessment must have been fun!

pc.iow

1,879 posts

232 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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The ferries were cancelled due to the weather.
The army chaps were carrying house holder’s belongings out of the properties as the road had collapsed.


http://onthewight.com/2014/02/15/raf-send-chinook-...
http://onthewight.com/2014/02/16/photosphere-under...



Sealine South

Original Poster:

534 posts

168 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Quite a sight!

aka_kerrly

12,505 posts

239 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Clever stuff. Presumably the Chinook is loaded up to utilise all the space on board and the Land Rovers are suspended as a means of increasing load capacity.

How does it work when they arrive then? Does the chinook have to hover while someone disconnects the LR and drives off before helicopter lands - there can't be staff in the LR whilst they travel like that!

Mutley

3,178 posts

288 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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aka_kerrly said:
Clever stuff. Presumably the Chinook is loaded up to utilise all the space on board and the Land Rovers are suspended as a means of increasing load capacity.

How does it work when they arrive then? Does the chinook have to hover while someone disconnects the LR and drives off before helicopter lands - there can't be staff in the LR whilst they travel like that!
The Chinook will be loaded, but probably not too much due to all up weight.

As for arriving, the way i see it is decend till the Landies are both on the ground, drop cable, land elsewhere

Grandad7184

2,105 posts

164 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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There a Load team waiting for the arrival. Chinook will hover then they use a cable/hook to un hitch and avoid static energy. The vehicles were from 17 P+M Marchwood what are fitted with waterproofing ETC. There may be a RFA ship sat next to IOW with troops operating from there. Its an annual exercise what normally happen on Browndown beach in Hampshire what has been changed to help the public.

ecsrobin

18,643 posts

194 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Grandad7184 said:
There a Load team waiting for the arrival. Chinook will hover then they use a cable/hook to un hitch and avoid static energy. The vehicles were from 17 P+M Marchwood what are fitted with waterproofing ETC. There may be a RFA ship sat next to IOW with troops operating from there. Its an annual exercise what normally happen on Browndown beach in Hampshire what has been changed to help the public.
Certainly the first half of that information is incorrect.

http://news.sky.com/story/1211986/extreme-weather-... there's a video here of the load being dropped off (sky news were on board the chinook) as you can see from the video no troops are near the aircraft when it drops its load.

However they will use a static line when hooking up a load. The vehicles were not from marchwood unless they decided to drive north for a day out.

From the RAF:

Members from the Royal Air Force and Army helped to deliver vital supplies and Reserve soldiers helping the flood relief effort on the Isle of Wight.

An RAF Chinook was called in to air lift two military Land Rovers to the Isle of Wight from a military base in Winchester. A team from the Joint Helicopter Support Squadron, based at RAF Odiham in Hampshire attached the under slung vehicles to the RAF Chinook.

Two Landrovers – light work
The specialist team composed of both RAF and Army personnel which work closely with all types of RAF helicopters, attached the vehicles weighing over three tonnes, a light load considering the Chinook has a maximum load carrying capability of approximately 10 tonnes (heavier than a Double Decker Bus).

The Land Rovers were transported along with their drivers and equipment to Newport where they would be used by Reservists from 7th Battalion The Rifles to help with the flood relief taking place on the Isle of Wight.

Storm affect on the Island
The Isle of Wight has experienced high winds and torrential rain over the past 24 hours and with expectations of more poor weather on the horizon the Government has sanctioned the use of the military to help with the flood relief efforts.

johnnywb

1,631 posts

237 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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onyx39 said:
Isle of Wight, helping with the Flood relief effort.
They apparently air lift a load of troops out of a park in Central Reading over the weekend.
Sounds like an expensive way to move troops around... unless they worries about being ambushed on the way into Reading...

smile
Probably a good way of getting some training for the pilots / crew / ground crew. May as well use it to their advantage.

Grandad7184

2,105 posts

164 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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ecsrobin said:
Grandad7184 said:
There a Load team waiting for the arrival. Chinook will hover then they use a cable/hook to un hitch and avoid static energy. The vehicles were from 17 P+M Marchwood what are fitted with waterproofing ETC. There may be a RFA ship sat next to IOW with troops operating from there. Its an annual exercise what normally happen on Browndown beach in Hampshire what has been changed to help the public.
Certainly the first half of that information is incorrect.

http://news.sky.com/story/1211986/extreme-weather-... there's a video here of the load being dropped off (sky news were on board the chinook) as you can see from the video no troops are near the aircraft when it drops its load.

However they will use a static line when hooking up a load. The vehicles were not from marchwood unless they decided to drive north for a day out.

From the RAF:

Members from the Royal Air Force and Army helped to deliver vital supplies and Reserve soldiers helping the flood relief effort on the Isle of Wight.

An RAF Chinook was called in to air lift two military Land Rovers to the Isle of Wight from a military base in Winchester. A team from the Joint Helicopter Support Squadron, based at RAF Odiham in Hampshire attached the under slung vehicles to the RAF Chinook.

Two Landrovers – light work
The specialist team composed of both RAF and Army personnel which work closely with all types of RAF helicopters, attached the vehicles weighing over three tonnes, a light load considering the Chinook has a maximum load carrying capability of approximately 10 tonnes (heavier than a Double Decker Bus).

The Land Rovers were transported along with their drivers and equipment to Newport where they would be used by Reservists from 7th Battalion The Rifles to help with the flood relief taking place on the Isle of Wight.

Storm affect on the Island
The Isle of Wight has experienced high winds and torrential rain over the past 24 hours and with expectations of more poor weather on the horizon the Government has sanctioned the use of the military to help with the flood relief efforts.
im no expert on how there loaded or unloaded as it not my trade. but the vehicles are from Marchwood as there part of my fleet and our out on attachment.

ecsrobin

18,643 posts

194 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Grandad7184 said:
im no expert on how there loaded or unloaded as it not my trade. but the vehicles are from Marchwood as there part of my fleet and our out on attachment.
Fair enough, just seems odd they were at Winchester

Grandad7184

2,105 posts

164 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Vehicles that can ford deep water are hard to get just know many are attached out. Winchester is close to Odiham. But yes Weird it was loaded from there and not odiham its self as 7 rifles are reading based

ecsrobin

18,643 posts

194 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Grandad7184 said:
Vehicles that can ford deep water are hard to get just know many are attached out. Winchester is close to Odiham. But yes Weird it was loaded from there and not odiham its self as 7 rifles are reading based
That makes sense.

onyx39

11,349 posts

179 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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ecsrobin said:
Grandad7184 said:
Vehicles that can ford deep water are hard to get just know many are attached out. Winchester is close to Odiham. But yes Weird it was loaded from there and not odiham its self as 7 rifles are reading based
That makes sense.
Training allowing aircrew to load from somewhere other than home base?

ecsrobin

18,643 posts

194 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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onyx39 said:
ecsrobin said:
Grandad7184 said:
Vehicles that can ford deep water are hard to get just know many are attached out. Winchester is close to Odiham. But yes Weird it was loaded from there and not odiham its self as 7 rifles are reading based
That makes sense.
Training allowing aircrew to load from somewhere other than home base?
No it wasn't that. Training on a Saturday it's the RAF not the army

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Mutley said:
aka_kerrly said:
Clever stuff. Presumably the Chinook is loaded up to utilise all the space on board and the Land Rovers are suspended as a means of increasing load capacity.

How does it work when they arrive then? Does the chinook have to hover while someone disconnects the LR and drives off before helicopter lands - there can't be staff in the LR whilst they travel like that!
The Chinook will be loaded, but probably not too much due to all up weight.

As for arriving, the way i see it is decend till the Landies are both on the ground, drop cable, land elsewhere
I've tasked with a full cabin including blokes sat the length of the floor plus two WMIKs underneath. Easy.

As for load handling at the destination, the primary hooks on the aircraft are mechanically opened so the load is placed on the ground and dumped with all the rigging and lifting strops still attached where it can be de-rigged at the leisure of the recipients. Used to deliver lots of stuff like this in Helmand....dump it on the HLS somewhere and the troops retrieve it under cover of darkness.

Edited by anonymous-user on Monday 17th February 21:12

anonymous-user

83 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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ecsrobin said:
Training on a Saturday it's the RAF not the army
Oh dear.
So, Asthma, colour blind or previously undetected heart condition?

ecsrobin

18,643 posts

194 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Crossflow Kid said:
ecsrobin said:
Training on a Saturday it's the RAF not the army
Oh dear.
So, Asthma, colour blind or previously undetected heart condition?
rofl or none of the above

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

213 months

Monday 17th February 2014
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Yawn.

So the RAF don't work at W/Es?

Yeah keep that myth going.

Idiot!