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creampuff

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6,511 posts

172 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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I'm sitting here at my departure gate at Ninoy Aquino International Airport, which I must say has a great view of the runway.

As it's 1750 and my scheduled departure time is 1755 and the inbound aircraft is not parked at the gate yet, I already worked out this flight will be late.

So why did this departure lounge let out a collective groan with an announcement that the flight will depart 50 mins late at 1845? Considering the aircraft isn't even visible at the moment, a 50 min delay is the best that could happen.

Getragdogleg

10,189 posts

212 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Because many other people are not observant and lack the awareness of their surroundings to deduce even obvious things.

Its why as a rule the larger the group the more idiotic the group becomes, everyone expects someone else to be in charge.

creampuff

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6,511 posts

172 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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fk me, it's a Boeing 777 and the closest bit is literally 4 metres from the window. It was quite conspicuous by its absence before!!!

Getragdogleg

10,189 posts

212 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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I did a touch and go at Kefalonia airport a few years ago, the pilot had come in on the approach and was most of the way down and lost contact with the tower so went up again and went around.

The couple in the seats next to me said "oh, I wonder if we are landing soon" and " well, we went down a lot then but we are still flying".

Its was a wheels on tarmac-hard pull back-full throttle lets get back up again-point of no return rollercoaster, how the hell they missed that something was not quite right I will never know.

The reason for the Touch and go was that the Greek ATC guy had popped out for a fag. Seriously, halfway through landing an inbound flight. We circled for a half hour while the pilot probably gave Spiros fk !

Simpo Two

92,675 posts

294 months

Wednesday 14th May 2014
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Getragdogleg said:
Its was a wheels on tarmac-hard pull back-full throttle lets get back up again-point of no return rollercoaster... The reason for the Touch and go was that the Greek ATC guy had popped out for a fag.
If the wheels were on the tarmac did it matter that the ATC guy had popped out? The hard bit was done surely, better to have it on the ground than back in the air?

creampuff

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6,511 posts

172 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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I'd guess ATC popping out for a fag was unrelated.... landing clearance would already have been given. More likely the pilot wasn't happy with the approach or saw something he didn't like on the runway, like some crazy dude smoking a fag!

Getragdogleg

10,189 posts

212 months

Thursday 15th May 2014
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The Airport there is quite, interesting. Probably a goat or a dog on the runway.

It is a "fun" approach and quite a short runway so its all got to be just right.

vournikas

12,556 posts

233 months

Friday 16th May 2014
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Getragdogleg said:
I did a touch and go at Kefalonia airport a few years ago
At Kef?!?! yikes

That's a very short runway for a touch 'n go

hidetheelephants

35,704 posts

222 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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vournikas said:
Getragdogleg said:
I did a touch and go at Kefalonia airport a few years ago
At Kef?!?! yikes

That's a very short runway for a touch 'n go
If it's too short for you to do a touch and go then your aircraft is too large/too heavy to land there.

Getragdogleg

10,189 posts

212 months

Saturday 17th May 2014
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hidetheelephants said:
vournikas said:
Getragdogleg said:
I did a touch and go at Kefalonia airport a few years ago
At Kef?!?! yikes

That's a very short runway for a touch 'n go
If it's too short for you to do a touch and go then your aircraft is too large/too heavy to land there.
I have flown in to Kef loads of times and every landing always feels a bit "just in time". It is a short runway with beach at both ends.


My Sister in law used to work on Kef for one of the travel firms, she was based in the airport and knew pretty much everyone there. It was her who told me the ATC had popped out and could not be found, she saw our AC come in, touch and take off and sussed out that the pilot must have had a problem, it was not common knowledge but insider info, I suspect the ATC was given a hard time over it.

In fact, every single problem I have ever had while flying has been into or out of Kef, we had one really long delay when an incoming flight landed VERY heavily and damaged the landing gear, we were supposed to be going out on that same AC. A replacement AC was sent in the end and we got home almost a day late.

texaxile

3,752 posts

179 months

Sunday 18th May 2014
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Creampuff, have they fixed the effing Air Con at NAIA yet?.

We left there last month (luckily for an early morning flight) and in the International "lounge" it was already pretty uncomfortable. One of the girls told me it gets crazy from 10 am onwards.

Same thing happens on domestic flights. We were sat at Legazpi airport waiting our departing flight which in fact departed as we sat in the lounge, albeit for the previous scheduled time. We had to wait for it to return from MNL so we could then get on for our scheduled flight...2 hours late.

saaby93

32,038 posts

207 months

Saturday 14th June 2014
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Strange but true
http://globalnation.inquirer.net/106248/lawyer-fil...
Phers ahead of the game

creampuff

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6,511 posts

172 months

Saturday 14th June 2014
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texaxile said:
Creampuff, have they fixed the effing Air Con at NAIA yet?.
The air-con is a bit warm, but no ridiculously so.

I would definitely rate NAIA nowhere near the "worst airport in the world" which it has won in the past.

The low cost terminal in another story, that is pretty bad. It really need to (a) be 5x larger (b) have 5x more powerful aircon (c) have a ceiling, not just a roof.