Lear jet and euro fighter crash in Germany
Lear jet and euro fighter crash in Germany
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4lf4-155

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700 posts

272 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Monday 23rd June 2014
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You do have to wonder where these journalists find their info.

Anyway a sad day.

RIP..

V41LEY

3,019 posts

267 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Rather ironic that the report says the Eurofighters were trying to make visual contact with the Learjet. Result seems to indicate they achieved that !! RIP

SwissJonese

1,546 posts

204 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Impressed the Euro Fighter managed to land safely, sad that someone on the Lear Jet died though. Surely the Euro Fighter is a unstable flying machine so the computer must have to work overtime to keep it flying if the jet is damaged?

More details on: BBC News

Mave

8,217 posts

244 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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I guess the advantage it has is bags of spare lift, control authority, and thrust.
RIP for those who died.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Mave said:
I guess the advantage it has is bags of spare lift, control authority, and thrust.
RIP for those who died.
I suspect in this case, the important thing it had, which the Lear jet doesn't is an airframe stressed to about 9g, and "battle hardened" in strategic locations........

Mojocvh

16,837 posts

291 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Very sad indeed. however, even in these times training, military training still has it's risks.

Background. I know that during the f3 era, FRA ecm training Falcons were used to introduce crews to how their onboard sensors could be "spoofed".

An initial flight may well have had the interceptor crew carry out vis id's starting from the most "basic" visual version onwards.

One "trick", in the latter stages, was to have the interceptor carry out a IMC vis id pattern up to the holding point ie the point where they stop closure as they cannot ID the target. Then both aircraft, in full co-operation and communication with each other, climb slowly out of the cloud to gain visual. At this point the interceptor crew would find that they were looking [say to the left] and not have a tally where the sensor told them there should be a falcon confused shortly after this a short radio call of "we're over here" would have the crew look to the right and see a blue Falcon sitting some way away. Deceptive manipulation of the onboard sensor/systems...