Lancaster documentary on BBC2 now
Lancaster documentary on BBC2 now
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RichB

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Sunday 20th July 2014
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TimJMS

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Sunday 20th July 2014
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RichB

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Sunday 20th July 2014
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BBC2 The Lancaster: Britain's Flying Past
John Sergeant documentary

Edited by RichB on Sunday 20th July 21:50

0a

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Sunday 20th July 2014
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Great shot of the Lancaster directly below!

baldy1926

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Sunday 20th July 2014
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Its got really dusty in my flat

pincher

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Sunday 20th July 2014
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yes

Wacky Racer

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Sunday 20th July 2014
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Interesting, but didn't really say anything new, but fascinating to see round the ruins of the German V1 and V2 research site at Peenemunde.

ecsrobin

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Sunday 20th July 2014
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Wacky Racer said:
Interesting, but didn't really say anything new, but fascinating to see round the ruins of the German V1 and V2 research site at Peenemunde.
It doesn't need to be anything new as long as people constantly remember those who lost their lives for our freedom. The day people stop looking up when the lancaster flys over is the day the message is lost.

Wacky Racer

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Sunday 20th July 2014
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ecsrobin said:
Wacky Racer said:
Interesting, but didn't really say anything new, but fascinating to see round the ruins of the German V1 and V2 research site at Peenemunde.
It doesn't need to be anything new as long as people constantly remember those who lost their lives for our freedom. The day people stop looking up when the lancaster flys over is the day the message is lost.
I think everyone would look up when they see a Lancaster, you can hear them from miles away...awesome sound.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-...

ecsrobin

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Sunday 20th July 2014
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Wacky Racer said:
I think everyone would look up when they see a Lancaster, you can hear them from miles away...awesome sound.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-lincolnshire-...
I'm very much looking forward to being at Coningsby and seeing the Canadian lancaster arrive on the 8th august before going to Eastbourne, Bournemouth and goodwood revival and seeing the 2 display at them all.

CanAm

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Sunday 20th July 2014
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A moving programme but spoiled by typically dodgy use of stock footage. Near the beginning they included a shot of a waist gunner, so probably a B-17. And during the soundtrack describing the Dam Busters raid taking off, they were just standard Lancasters from another squadron.

RichB

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Monday 21st July 2014
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CanAm said:
...during the soundtrack describing the Dam Busters raid taking off, they were just standard Lancasters from another squadron.
Because there is no film of 617 taking off on that mission, but you know that.

Eric Mc

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Monday 21st July 2014
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Exactly. There is only so much footage available to film makers. If you watch enough WW2 docs you are bound to see the same clips used over and over again. Often the clips are not really appropriate to the point being discussed.

In the documentary on Eric Brown they showed German gun camera footage of American B-24s being attacked head on in an attempt to demonstrate the head on tactics adopted by Brown when attacking Focke Wulf Condors.

Simpo Two

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Monday 21st July 2014
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Eric Mc said:
In the documentary on Eric Brown they showed German gun camera footage of American B-24s being attacked head on in an attempt to demonstrate the head on tactics adopted by Brown when attacking Focke Wulf Condors.
They could say: 'No footage of that exists but this is what a head-on attack looks like from a pilot's eye.'

I'm waiting for a WW2 documentary to be made entirely from the clip of early He-111s over Spain, and the clip from a landing craft as the door goes down with the house in the background.

Eric Mc

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Monday 21st July 2014
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Simpo Two said:
They could say: 'No footage of that exists but this is what a head-on attack looks like from a pilot's eye.'

I'm waiting for a WW2 documentary to be made entirely from the clip of early He-111s over Spain, and the clip from a landing craft as the door goes down with the house in the background.
I'm waiting for a WW2 documentary that DOESN'T show those Spanish Civil War shots.

The other shot, usually shown in Battle of Britain documentaries,, is the mass of Dornier 17s flying in parade formation at what is probably a Nuremburg Rally flypast.

ecsrobin

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Monday 21st July 2014
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Simpo Two said:
They could say: 'No footage of that exists but this is what a head-on attack looks like from a pilot's eye.'

I'm waiting for a WW2 documentary to be made entirely from the clip of early He-111s over Spain, and the clip from a landing craft as the door goes down with the house in the background.
Documentaries like this are aimed at the average person who knows a little not a lot. So to them it doesn't matter if it is a different aircraft or in a different role. I noticed the stock footage but did it ruin my viewing pleasure? No.

Eric Mc

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Monday 21st July 2014
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It doesn't "ruin" the programme - but it does annoy and does hint at laziness and cost cutting on behalf of the programme makers.

The other silly shot that creeps into documentaries, again usually ones on the Battle of Britain, is a shot of a mass take off of Miles Master trainers. They are supposed to be scrambling to intercept Luftwaffe attackers.

ecsrobin

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Monday 21st July 2014
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Eric Mc said:
It doesn't "ruin" the programme - but it does annoy and does hint at laziness and cost cutting on behalf of the programme makers.

The other silly shot that creeps into documentaries, again usually ones on the Battle of Britain, is a shot of a mass take off of Miles Master trainers. They are supposed to be scrambling to intercept Luftwaffe attackers.
Again the programme is not aimed at people like yourself Eric. The type of war documentary your after is probably only available direct to VHS/DVD and I'm sure there would still be inaccuracies.

RichB

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Monday 21st July 2014
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Stop it chaps else you'll get me onto my pet subject of continuity in period dramas. Usually one sees Poirot boarding a train at Marylebone to investigate a murder in Devon hauled by a Standard Class Black 5 which miraculously turns into a Prairie tank as they alight at Kidderminster and take a taxi to the local hotel. Does it spoil the programme? No of course not but with so many preservations lines available these days one occasionally wishes they could at least show the same loco pulling the train as the one they habitually show slipping its wheels in clouds of steam as it struggles away from London.

Eric Mc

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Monday 21st July 2014
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Yep - it's just laziness and penny pinching.

The people making the programme should make the effort.