Plane taking off from a trailer
Plane taking off from a trailer
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MartG

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233 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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And no conveyor belt .......


Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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That's fine. All it needs is enough airflow over the wings. Will need water for the landing though!

williamp

20,381 posts

302 months

Friday 15th August 2014
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Could it land on the trailer??

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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In the 1980s there was an airshow act involving a Piper Cub landing and taking off from a moving container lorry. I think the pilot was Brendan O'Brien.

Simpo Two

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294 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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williamp said:
Could it land on the trailer??
In theory yes but in practice I'd say impossible due to accuracy required and turbulence from towing vehicle.

Eric Mc

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294 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Simpo Two said:
In theory yes but in practice I'd say impossible due to accuracy required and turbulence from towing vehicle.
Brendan O'Brien in action.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13638991

mph1977

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197 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Simpo Two said:
That's fine. All it needs is enough airflow over the wings. Will need water for the landing though!
it's why out of choice a naval ship will be steaming into the wind at a decent speed for take offs and landings to give favourable wind to aircraft taking off (fixed or rotary)

Fugazi

564 posts

150 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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mph1977 said:
it's why out of choice a naval ship will be steaming into the wind at a decent speed for take offs and landings to give favourable wind to aircraft taking off (fixed or rotary)
My PhD is on this very subject, investigating ship design and the subsequent impact of ship airwakes on helicopter operations. The earlier poster was correct in saying that the turbulent wake produced by the car in front would limit any attempt at landing but whether that would prohibit a landing I don't know. Potentially the plane could land but the dominating factor would probably be the pilot workload rather than control limits.

[Sciencey stuff: Turbulence effects the level of pilot workload, in rotorcraft this occurs in the 0.2Hz to 2Hz frequency range. Below this range a pilot can compensate by using a stick input to correct the aircraft's attitude, above this range and the turbulence manifests itself as a vibration on the airframe. Within the frequency range puts the pilot at risk of inducing a Pilot Induced Oscillation and a lot of hard work to maintain a controlled flight.]

A quick trawl of Youtube found that somebody has managed something similar in the past though, and landed on a car, interesting that he sideslipped in, presumably in an effort to avoid the wake from the van. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qoBsyFo9VEc

anonymous-user

83 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Easier with a High wing aircraft, with the wing up out of the way, although you'd need to go a bit faster as there will be signficantly less ground effect?

valiant

14,119 posts

189 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Wasn't there a case of a (very) small aircraft taking off from the roof of a Mitsubishi Shogun? Think it could have been a microlight or similar.

Think it was used as a promotional tool for Mitsubishi.

Edit, found it

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=plane+taking+o...

Edited by valiant on Saturday 16th August 13:26

Simpo Two

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Saturday 16th August 2014
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Eric Mc said:
Simpo Two said:
In theory yes but in practice I'd say impossible due to accuracy required and turbulence from towing vehicle.
Brendan O'Brien in action.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13638991
That was a larger target than the trailer in question.

speedtwelve

3,546 posts

302 months

Saturday 16th August 2014
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Eric Mc said:
In the 1980s there was an airshow act involving a Piper Cub landing and taking off from a moving container lorry. I think the pilot was Brendan O'Brien.
Brendan is still doing his Cub landing on a trailer act today. Met him a few years back; he is Lord Flasheart from Blackadder goes Forth.

McWigglebum4th

32,414 posts

233 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Eric Mc

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294 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Simpo Two said:
That was a larger target than the trailer in question.
I noticed.

The trick of landing and taking off from moving trailers, trucks etc is well established over decades. Obviously, the trucks, trailers and aircraft used have varied over the years.

maffski

1,905 posts

188 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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A slightly different approach - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voixUMWvkV4

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Eric Mc said:
Simpo Two said:
In theory yes but in practice I'd say impossible due to accuracy required and turbulence from towing vehicle.
Brendan O'Brien in action.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-13638991
Ah, yes...I'm Brendan O'Brian, I'm a PILOT..and I'm all right, I work all day and I sleep all night, I go to the lavvatreeee....

Here's more ----> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnIVvKnJIOs

hehe

MartG

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233 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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maffski said:
A slightly different approach - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voixUMWvkV4
I think he'd have just a teensy problem landing back on the truck wink

Eric Mc

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294 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Excellent.

Dave^

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282 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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pft...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IPOtDPHjW-Y

Plane taking off by itself from standstill (just a really strong wind in the right direction).

mybrainhurts

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284 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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There goes the no claims bonus...