Want to learn to fly
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croyde

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26,298 posts

259 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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OK, 2nd episode of Worst Place to be a Pilot done and I want to learn to fly. To old to do what those chaps do but sod it, I want my PPL, just as a challenge to myself.

I had an aerobatic session with a brief go at the controls out of Redhill a couple of years back so I could check out the flying schools there but before I do, any suggestions? taking into account that I am in SW London.

Cheers.

anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Have you thought about gliding, that's a pretty pure form of flight and there are clubs near Dunstable North of London.

If you get a PPL, are you likely to do much with it ? I know you asked about getting a PPL but there are lots of cheaper (possibly more rewarding) forms of flying around.

RichB

56,208 posts

313 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Learn to fly a glider then when you switch to a plane the actual flying is a doddle (in fact you'll understand more about flight than many power chaps) and all you've got to worry about is the greasy bits and the radio "Golf-echo-delta-tango-four ready for take off" and all that clipped accent and handlebar moustache stuff!

RichB

56,208 posts

313 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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laugh

croyde

Original Poster:

26,298 posts

259 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Yeah! it's always worried me about being able to do all that Golf, Yankee and Echo stuff in the right voice. Have used radios when I was a courier but it was more 'POB Regent's Street' or 'Empty High Wycombe with waiting time'.

hehe

RichB

56,208 posts

313 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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However having said all of that... gliding in the UK is becoming more heavily regulated by EASA with their proposed mandatory requirements for FLARM and other stuff so I guess radio will be mandatory soon; "Echo-Bravo-Kilo request permission to land." Tower, "Sorry, can you go round EBK?" "No, I'm coming down!" laugh

The charm of being able to fly off for a few hours quietly under the clouds is rapidly being eroded.

VernalEquinox

142 posts

240 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Make sure you take a trial lesson in a microlight before you commit to flying spamcans :-)


ccr32

1,983 posts

247 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Flying schools within the vicinity of SW London also include Fairoaks, Blackbushe, White Waltham, and Biggin Hill, as well as Redhill as you mention. A (rather obvious) word of advice is try and pick a school relatively near to where you live, as 200 mile round trips can get boring when you don't get to fly because the cloud base has lowered or the wind has picked up while you have been driving down there, etc...

As el_stovey mentioned, give gliding a go too - even with a fair number of hours under my PPL belt now, I am seriously considering getting the gliding badges. Had a go out of Lasham (which I'd heartily recommend for a gliding experience - no idea what they're like for formal training though) a while back and I loved it - proper flying, and soo quiet - until you point the nose at the deck anyway!

If you're serious about getting a PPL though, there are plenty of people out there (myself included) who will happily tell you about their respective experiences and have advice to give - drop me a PM if wish! smile


Edited by ccr32 on Wednesday 27th August 16:54

Quattromaster

3,045 posts

233 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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croyde said:
Yeah! it's always worried me about being able to do all that Golf, Yankee and Echo stuff in the right voice.
hehe
When I was doing my PPL it was the radio stuff I really struggled with, no idea why, it just felt so wrong and I always found myself talking with a stupid voice.

pushthebutton

1,099 posts

211 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Can you combine it with some time away?

I haven't personally done it, but what about learning to fly in a couple of two week blocks in the USA? I'm sure there's a price difference between there and the UK and that may cover the cost of the flights there and back.

UK airspace is so full that learning here could be a real pain in the arse. I'm a fan of the US, so I'd personally enjoy the destinations more than I would in the UK and it's much more geared towards General Aviation.

mattdaniels

7,362 posts

311 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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If you get a PPL in the US it will be an FAA licence so I think you'll need to do a conversion to a JAA licence to be able to fly G registered aircraft in the UK.

FWIW of the airfields listed above, I learned to fly at Biggin Hill and whilst it has the advantage of being a large airfield with full ATC service for you to get used to, the downside is it can be very busy especially at weekends. Wasting 10 minutes of your lesson time lined up in a queue of arriving/departing aircraft isn't fun.

RichB

56,208 posts

313 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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ccr32 said:
...As el_stovey mentioned, give gliding a go too - even with a fair number of hours under my PPL belt now, I am seriously considering getting the gliding badges. Had a go out of Lasham (which I'd heartily recommend for a gliding experience - no idea what they're like for formal training though) a while back and I loved it - proper flying, and soo quiet - until you point the nose at the deck anyway!
I fly from booker where I used to be an instructor but enjoy flying at Lasham too and their instructors are excellent too. The beauty of Lasham is that you can get familiar with winch launching - which is always fun and a quick, cheap way of getting up to 1,800' smile