BBC2 9pm - castles in the sky
BBC2 9pm - castles in the sky
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ecsrobin

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18,643 posts

194 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Just a heads up guys about a 90 minute drama on BBC2 tonight that looks like it could be quite good and aviation related as it's about radar/chain home.

"This is the remarkable human drama behind the invention that was to prove pivotal in the Battle of Britain. It is also the thrilling story of the tenacity and courage of a most unlikely group of British heroes."


The Vambo

7,699 posts

170 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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tdm34

7,494 posts

239 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Thus far looking good....

Tango13

10,048 posts

205 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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tdm34 said:
Thus far looking good....
Really?

The phone in the bucket of water was a favourite trick of R V Jones.

No mention of his assistant Wilkins who suggested that aircraft interfering with radio signals could be used to detect them.

As for the bit about bouncing a radio signal off the Ionosphere to boost the range...

Had the scriptwriter(s) actually taken the trouble to read any history? I very much doubt it.

tdm34

7,494 posts

239 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Tango13 said:
tdm34 said:
Thus far looking good....
Really?

The phone in the bucket of water was a favourite trick of R V Jones.

No mention of his assistant Wilkins who suggested that aircraft interfering with radio signals could be used to detect them.

As for the bit about bouncing a radio signal off the Ionosphere to boost the range...

Had the scriptwriter(s) actually taken the trouble to read any history? I very much doubt it.
Well I still enjoyed it.....

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

196 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Oh tell me why, do we build castles in the sky?

The Vambo

7,699 posts

170 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Tango13 said:
Really?

The phone in the bucket of water was a favourite trick of R V Jones.

No mention of his assistant Wilkins who suggested that aircraft interfering with radio signals could be used to detect them.

As for the bit about bouncing a radio signal off the Ionosphere to boost the range...

Had the scriptwriter(s) actually taken the trouble to read any history? I very much doubt it.
I think you are looking for a documentary, don't for the love of God watch U-571, you will piss your pants.

perdu

4,885 posts

228 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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I enjoyed it

And I cannot stand Eddie Izzard in real life

Good entertainment value

ecsrobin

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18,643 posts

194 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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perdu said:
I enjoyed it

And I cannot stand Eddie Izzard in real life

Good entertainment value
Very good entertainment and hopefully bringing something that is quite a specialist subject into the general publics homes.

D_T_W

2,502 posts

244 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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tdm34 said:
Tango13 said:
tdm34 said:
Thus far looking good....
Really?

The phone in the bucket of water was a favourite trick of R V Jones.

No mention of his assistant Wilkins who suggested that aircraft interfering with radio signals could be used to detect them.

As for the bit about bouncing a radio signal off the Ionosphere to boost the range...

Had the scriptwriter(s) actually taken the trouble to read any history? I very much doubt it.
Well I still enjoyed it.....
As did I, whilst it may not have been factually accurate to the nth degree, it beat most of the other ste on telly at the moment!

Severian

16 posts

166 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Tango13 said:
No mention of his assistant Wilkins who suggested that aircraft interfering with radio signals could be used to detect them.
Do you mean Skip Wilkins played by Karl Davies who appeared throughout most of the programme?

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

213 months

Thursday 4th September 2014
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Tango13 said:
As for the bit about bouncing a radio signal off the Ionosphere to boost the range...
Which is exactly what you do with HF.

And exactly where the early experiments were centred (20-55MHz).


Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Friday 5th September 00:37

tdm34

7,494 posts

239 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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perdu said:
I enjoyed it

And I cannot stand Eddie Izzard in real life

Good entertainment value
Pick up a copy of Valkyrie, Izzard is rather good amongst a stellar cast of British thespians, Tom Cruise isn't bad in it either

Simpo Two

92,670 posts

294 months

Friday 5th September 2014
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It was one of the few programmes I watch from start to finish. But I found the bolt-on 'drama' rather false and WW's performance in front of the brass excruciating. I also thought the 'fishing line with bells' analogy a very poor way for a boffin to explain the concept to a layman - was it true? And was the team really stumped for valves when they were in TVs all the time? You'd expect a cutting edge development team to be aware of such things. And could they not have booked Bawdsey Manor - it used to be bookable for events but perhaps no more?

Tango13

10,048 posts

205 months

Saturday 6th September 2014
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Ginetta G15 Girl said:
Tango13 said:
As for the bit about bouncing a radio signal off the Ionosphere to boost the range...
Which is exactly what you do with HF.

And exactly where the early experiments were centred (20-55MHz).


Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Friday 5th September 00:37
I know this but then so did Edward Appleton who did a significant amount of work in this area long before Watson Watt.



BikeBikeBIke

14,397 posts

144 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Can someone identify the strange looking aircraft used as a Target during testing in the show?

I enjoyed it as a drama, loosely based on fact. Better than reality shows.

ecsrobin

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194 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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It was an avro anson

BikeBikeBIke

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144 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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ecsrobin said:
It was an avro anson
Thanks, that plus the squadron code was enough to identify it - K6183. I guess the shots were filmed in New Zealand.

tdm34

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239 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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ecsrobin said:
It was an avro anson
The In cockpit shots were from a Mossie, probably KA114

Ginetta G15 Girl

3,220 posts

213 months

Thursday 11th September 2014
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The first aircraft used was a DeHavillad DH89A Dominie (Dragon Rapide) reg G-AKIF from Duxford.

As correctly pointed out, the second aircraft was the (New Zealand based) Avro Anson reg ZK-RRA (K6183) coded up as VX-B.

I'd also concurr that the in cockpit shots were a Mosquito - the rudder trim is the dead give-away.



Edited by Ginetta G15 Girl on Thursday 11th September 00:31