Help needed- taking a british boat to ibiza.

[Geothompson]

I am looking for some advise on the following.

My folks have permanent residency in Ibiza. I recently own a 20ft Regal for wakeboarding and wish to take it over there on a trailer.
Having a hard time finding out the laws.

The boat will be kept there 365 days a year. Most likely in a Marina, just looking at costs now.
Other option is theres a jetty by the house (trying to find out if it's rentable, lots of small boats on it) and the option of keeping it on trailer during the winter on my folks land. Checking if it fits at the moment.

I know about The driver licence needed and laws so don't need information. on that.

Does it need to be re-registared in Spain by law or can it be kept british if there full time. Roughly what is the cost of this oh re-registering ....I have heard 20% of the cost of the boat! (35k boat)
Does english insurance cover the boat out there or do I need Spanish insurance? Can Spanish insurance only be acquired if the boat is Spanish registared and does the policy holder need residency to do this.

Just trying to work out what's more cost effective. Really appreciate any advise.
NoW this also sounds like a stupid question.... But the boat comes with a trailer, once in the Marina. What do most people do with the trailer! Do marinas provide storage for this as well.

Thanks!

Edited by Geothompson on Monday 12th January 13:42

[maser_spyder]

Keep it UK flagged and just tell your UK insurer it's going abroad, they'll change cover to suit and you'll ideally need a cover note in the local language just in case. I have insurer issued insurance certificates in English, French, Spanish and Italian, just in case! All this is fairly normal.

Balearics is stuffed full, expensive, and difficult to find a berth. Best bet is to keep on your own land and only launch when you want to use it. For a 20' boat that's really easy. Unless things have changed much, I don't think there's anything like a dry stack, etc. like you get in the UK.

To give you an idea, Ibiza spot for a night in the summer can be 150-200 EUR for a 40' boat. The same in mainland Spain or France will be yours for less than half that (and in some cases, quarter that). Lovely spot though!

[maser_spyder]

Oh, you'll need to SSR register too, takes about a week but is essential for going abroad. Nice clear boat name and SSR number on the stern too, it's the first thing any marina will look at.

Unsurprisingly, marine insurance is well geared up for people taking boats abroad, the quote is normally tailored to your cruising area, larger area is more expensive, some parts of the world are un-insurable.

I found Europe to cost about 10% more than the equivalent uk area, but at a few hundred quid for over six figures of cover, it's still very cheap given the risk.

There's loads of British flagged vessels in the med (especially Ibiza), so you'll be well at home.

[Geothompson]

maser_spyder said:

Oh, you'll need to SSR register too, takes about a week but is essential for going abroad. Nice clear boat name and SSR number on the stern too, it's the first thing any marina will look at.

Unsurprisingly, marine insurance is well geared up for people taking boats abroad, the quote is normally tailored to your cruising area, larger area is more expensive, some parts of the world are un-insurable.

I found Europe to cost about 10% more than the equivalent uk area, but at a few hundred quid for over six figures of cover, it's still very cheap given the risk.

There's loads of British flagged vessels in the med (especially Ibiza), so you'll be well at home.

Thanks for all the above its really useful, so can I just check even if it's stays for the entire time in ibiza it doesn't need to be re-registared. 365 days. I read to rent a berth for a year it needs to be and paper work will be checked but this could be false info. Have a friend who has a Spanish boat that's only 16ft, they manage to rent a berth for 2400 euros a year in San Antonia and have advised us to check with Santa Eularia as that's 5mins drive from the house. Hoping it may be reasonable.

House is on the beach with a jetty nearby, still trying to find out who owns this. Looks like lots of illegal mornings on it for little fishing boats. But no access to put it in the water nearby. It's rocky. Ideally it will fit through the gates be kept on the land and we can keep it on the Jetty in summer or there are loads of buoys out the front (aware this isn't the legal option) but perhaps good while we are there and using in and it's not trailered up.

Found some on trailer storage near the house too that's only 80euro a month!

thanks for the info on insurance, that's really helpful and the SSR.

[maser_spyder]

Geothompson said:

Thanks for all the above its really useful, so can I just check even if it's stays for the entire time in ibiza it doesn't need to be re-registared. 365 days. I read to rent a berth for a year it needs to be and paper work will be checked but this could be false info. Have a friend who has a Spanish boat that's only 16ft, they manage to rent a berth for 2400 euros a year in San Antonia and have advised us to check with Santa Eularia as that's 5mins drive from the house. Hoping it may be reasonable.

House is on the beach with a jetty nearby, still trying to find out who owns this. Looks like lots of illegal mornings on it for little fishing boats. But no access to put it in the water nearby. It's rocky. Ideally it will fit through the gates be kept on the land and we can keep it on the Jetty in summer or there are loads of buoys out the front (aware this isn't the legal option) but perhaps good while we are there and using in and it's not trailered up.

Found some on trailer storage near the house too that's only 80euro a month!

thanks for the info on insurance, that's really helpful and the SSR.

There are some rules on the length of time you can stay but I think it's relatively approachable in terms or rules, especially for a relatively small boat that you'll keep on the driveway for most of the year.

Why not buy a boat out there? Plenty available!

Santa Eulalia marina is, umm.... Well, if you like bars called the 'British Bulldog', all day breakfasts and karaoke, surroundered by lobster-hued Brits in the summer, you'll love it! Very expensive too. There's much nicer places on the island to keep a boat.

[Geothompson]

Think we have crossed wires, I am concerned we won't be able to get the boat through the house gates. It's walled. The marina is a back up so it would be there in the water 365 days a year if we rent a berth rather than keeping it at the house and putting it in the water when needed.

Regarding the marina, Santa Eularia is a 5 min drive from the villa so the sensible option for getting to the boat regardless of the eggs and chips! We will be eating fresh fish and nice wine at the villa trust me.

So knowing that (365 days at the marina) is that a game changer with having it UK flagged.
The reason for the UK boat is we have found a new one (boat show) ex display, amazing deal. 5 year warranty, top spec, not seen anything come close in Spain, all older for our budget:
The used UK ones are also considerably less- I am starting to realise perhaps for this reason.

Thanks