A B-52 flies OUT of Davis-Monthan

[MartG]

A B-52H has been returned to service following 10 years storage, to replace a damaged aircraft.

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/fun-fact...

Probably still be flying when they are 100 years old !

[mph1977]

MartG said:

A B-52H has been returned to service following 10 years storage, to replace a damaged aircraft.

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/warbirds-news/fun-fact...

Probably still be flying when they are 100 years old !

this was also where the base aircraft for the RAFs Rivet Joint aircraft were retrieved from ...

[Mr_B]

Almost as interest was the link on that site to an open cockpit event in March at the RAF Museum Hendon

http://www.warbirdsnews.com/uncategorized/open-coc...

[FourWheelDrift]

"following its restoration on Friday, the 13th"

I'll pass please, can I fly something else instead.

[Eric Mc]

Pity this one isn't still around -

[PH5121]

Eric Mc said:

Pity this one isn't still around -

The Halifax that has been recreated at the Yorkshire air museum at Elvington near to where I live carries that name, although I don't know if any parts of the original have been used in its construction.

[PGM]

Blowing a bit of soot out of the exhausts after being stood still that long

[tog]

There's no mention anywhere of what happened to cause the damage to the aircraft being replaced.

[FourWheelDrift]

tog said:

There's no mention anywhere of what happened to cause the damage to the aircraft being replaced.

All I can find is "a mishap" that damaged it beyond economical repair, which sounds like something dropped on it, driven into it, or something caught fire and damaged something important. Or a taxi driving error.

Edited by FourWheelDrift on Wednesday 18th February 16:31

[mph1977]

PGM said:

Blowing a bit of soot out of the exhausts after being stood still that long

the B52 stiull uses relatively old tech engines , the willingness to commit to a re -engine with 4 modern large turbofans doesn;t seem to be forthcoming, probably becasue the front runner engines are 'not invented here' ...

[Munter]

mph1977 said:

PGM said:

Blowing a bit of soot out of the exhausts after being stood still that long

the B52 stiull uses relatively old tech engines , the willingness to commit to a re -engine with 4 modern large turbofans doesn;t seem to be forthcoming, probably becasue the front runner engines are 'not invented here' ...

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http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/once-again-the-us...

[Eric Mc]

I doubt if "not invented here" is the reason. After all. a huge number of KC-135s were re-engined with CFM56s. I expect it's a funding and engineering issue.

[mph1977]

Eric Mc said:

I doubt if "not invented here" is the reason. After all. a huge number of KC-135s were re-engined with CFM56s. I expect it's a funding and engineering issue.

8 x BR7n0s or 4xTrent are both 'not invented here'

CFM is partly owned by GE so is 'invented here'

[Yertis]

PH5121 said:

Eric Mc said:

Pity this one isn't still around -

The Halifax that has been recreated at the Yorkshire air museum at Elvington near to where I live carries that name, although I don't know if any parts of the original have been used in its construction.

IIRC the original piece of nose art is on the wall at Hendon.

[Eric Mc]

mph1977 said:

8 x BR7n0s or 4xTrent are both 'not invented here'

CFM is partly owned by GE so is 'invented here'

"Part invented here".

American planes have often used non-American engines.

[Yertis]

Eric Mc said:

"Part invented here".

American planes have often used non-American engines.

Have we ever used US engines in ours? Off the top of my head I can't think of any.

[GoodDoc]

Eric Mc said:

mph1977 said:

8 x BR7n0s or 4xTrent are both 'not invented here'

CFM is partly owned by GE so is 'invented here'

"Part invented here".

American planes have often used non-American engines.

I'm definitely not an expert but having read a few articles there does seem to be a desire, from an operational perspective, to put modern engines on the B-52. The USAF already operates suitable engines that are more powerful and fuel efficient and re-engining would result in reduced fuel consumption which would allow heavier loads and/or greater range, the problem seems to be budgets.

The US Department of Defence can fund upgrades and new vehicles based on future saving, but not for combat aircraft, so they're looking at public/private schemes to pay for the engines and upgrade work, and then refund that investment from the fuel savings.

Lots more detail here;
http://foxtrotalpha.jalopnik.com/once-again-the-us...

[Eric Mc]

It's something they've been debating for at least ten years.

[FourWheelDrift]

Yertis said:

Eric Mc said:

"Part invented here".

American planes have often used non-American engines.

Have we ever used US engines in ours? Off the top of my head I can't think of any.

188 Short Sunderland MkV and 220 Vickers Wellington B Mark IV used the Pratt & Whitney R-1830 Twin Wasp.
150 Vickers Warwicks were powered by the Pratt & Whitney R-2800 Double Wasp and 44 Westland Whirlwind Helicopter (sort of ours as the US had their version too) was powered by a Pratt & Whitney R-1340 Wasp, and 25 were powered by the Wright Cyclone.

[Eric Mc]

And quite a few Spitfires flew with American built Merlins.