Norwegian Airlines Pilots' Strike
Norwegian Airlines Pilots' Strike
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BrabusMog

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21,762 posts

215 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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Does anyone have any sort of concrete info on when this is going to be sorted? I have had 2 flights cancelled now and I am expecting my next one to be cancelled as well, quite annoying having to rebook flights at the last minute at triple the cost.

IforB

9,840 posts

258 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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It appears that it'll only get sorted when the management at NAS get their heads out of their rear ends. I'm only going on one side of the story from pilots i know there, but they do seem to have had the mickey taken out of them, hence the striking.

BrabusMog

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21,762 posts

215 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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I've heard that their pilots are paid a significant amount over industry average and that the bosses want to reduce this to only just over industry average, I could be wrong as it's all heresay, but I am short on sympathy for these pilots who are preventing me from travelling as I am used to,

Moonhawk

10,730 posts

248 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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I'm stuck in Tromso at the moment - was supposed to fly out today. Had two flights cancelled so far - looking like wednesday at the earliest even if the strike gets resolved in the next few hours.

IforB

9,840 posts

258 months

Monday 9th March 2015
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It takes two to tango in any industrial dispute, but it's always the customer that suffers.

Pilots aren't generally known for going on strike that often (unless they are French or from one of the old US carriers) so it takes a lot for it to actually happen, so I'd probably be directing my ire at the management at NAS as well as the pilots in your instance.

It's a pretty rubbish situation all round really.

BrabusMog

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21,762 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Moonhawk said:
I'm stuck in Tromso at the moment - was supposed to fly out today. Had two flights cancelled so far - looking like wednesday at the earliest even if the strike gets resolved in the next few hours.
I'm not holding my breath. Luckily there are plenty of alternative options for me, so I'll not be booking Norwegian again until (if ever) the dust well and truly settles.

montymoo

391 posts

196 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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BrabusMog said:
I've heard that their pilots are paid a significant amount over industry average and that the bosses want to reduce this to only just over industry average, I could be wrong as it's all heresay, but I am short on sympathy for these pilots who are preventing me from travelling as I am used to,
As far as I know that is not the case, the last I heard Norwegian new pilots where told to pay £20,000 for the type rating this would secure them a job on the 737 but due to internal reasons many of these pilots where then sacked about 3 months down the line.
I believe the pilots are trying to get job security they deserve.

r1flyguy1

1,571 posts

205 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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montymoo said:
BrabusMog said:
I've heard that their pilots are paid a significant amount over industry average and that the bosses want to reduce this to only just over industry average, I could be wrong as it's all heresay, but I am short on sympathy for these pilots who are preventing me from travelling as I am used to,
As far as I know that is not the case, the last I heard Norwegian new pilots where told to pay £20,000 for the type rating this would secure them a job on the 737 but due to internal reasons many of these pilots where then sacked about 3 months down the line.
I believe the pilots are trying to get job security they deserve.
Their pay is certainly NOT above the industry standard & a £20k outlay is typical O'Leary legacy (yes I know it's not Ryanair but it's that idiots business plan which has created the demise of decent airline jobs)

Fancy having to pay your employer to actually work for them!!! WTF all LCC's are the same and the little rich kids are ruining the industry because of this.

I've been led to believe the contracts suck!those LH pilots have vague ones at that and no rights, I hear the 787's they are recruiting for will have LGW base with Singapore contract.

The bean counters rule & keep the shareholders happy, increasing the dividends and cutting costs by any means, usually at the detriment of those that they need most, the operating crew (yes I'm including cabin crew too smile)

BrabusMog

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21,762 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Sorry, it was something I heard on the news but my Swedish obviously isn't good enough as I misunderstood the report completely hehe

Testaburger

3,974 posts

227 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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I have little sympathy for most striking workforces, but this is the management hen coming home to roost.

They have flouted several loopholes in their operation, regarding their flight crew employment and their Air Operators Certificate (AOC), and it's landed them in hot water.

Their pilot pay is poor, particularly with the European social taxes they face. They're also employed as contractors, so they transfer all such liabilities to the employees. They are a Norwegian carrier, but their long haul AOC I believe is Irish, enabling them to take advantage of Openskies, and the US access it offers. However, the employment contract officially bases the crew in Bangkok or Singapore, I believe, so they can govern their crew under Asian employment laws.

The short haul operation has a whole litany of issues, too.

Very sketchy.

anonymous-user

83 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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BrabusMog said:
I've heard that their pilots are paid a significant amount over industry average and that the bosses want to reduce this to only just over industry average, I could be wrong as it's all heresay, but I am short on sympathy for these pilots who are preventing me from travelling as I am used to,
That's not true at all. Norwegian pilots are poorly paid and have industry bottom terms and conditions. They're only slightly better than Ryanair.

andrew_huxtable

936 posts

217 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Just had a tweet from Flightradar saying that conditions have been agreed and the strike is over

sneijder

5,231 posts

263 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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All finished now,

They've been wet leasing all sorts of stuff at Oslo, widebody to Barcelona today.

First day of the strike the SAS booking system went a bit bananas, I heard there was a flight to CPH booked to over -45, I think they used an A330 to shift some people over.