troubled turboprops
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micky metro

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307 posts

215 months

Wednesday 6th January 2016
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHJuFsp_w8I
just watched this, i,m a nervous flyer, anyone on here experienced this kind of crosswind landing, how scary is it from the inside?

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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If you think that's bad, you want to see Leeds Bradford...hehe

What's it like?

Well, not as good as Alton Towers, but you're doomed anyway, so you're not missing anything.

Wear brown trousers....hehe

moleamol

15,887 posts

292 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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Being able to see straight up the runway from your window seat is pretty scary! But they'll go around if it's too bad.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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That's good flying.

MitchT

17,114 posts

238 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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They don’t look troubled to me, they look like competent pilots dealing with crosswinds in the appropriate manner.

LBA is 20 minutes’ drive from where I live, therefore I’ve been in and out of there many times. I’ve had more than my fair share of views along the runway through the window shortly before touchdown hehe

2fast748

1,271 posts

224 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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micky metro said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SHJuFsp_w8I
just watched this, i,m a nervous flyer, anyone on here experienced this kind of crosswind landing, how scary is it from the inside?
I actually find it quite entertaining! I fly FlyBe pretty regularly to the Isle of Man and I've had one "I can see all the way down the runway from row 22" moment and apart from the pilot making sure it was on the ground it wasn't that different to a normal landing.

Smaller aircraft do get buffeted around and I have heard someone say he'll never fly on a Dash 8 again after a very normal flight!

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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I have to say that it did seem to me that the Dash 8s were a lot more twitchy than the ATRs and the F50.

NM62

952 posts

179 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
If you think that's bad, you want to see Leeds Bradford...hehe

What's it like?

Well, not as good as Alton Towers, but you're doomed anyway, so you're not missing anything.

Wear brown trousers....hehe
They only do that to scare the southerners smile

Been in and out of LBA nearly 100 times - only had 1 very near miss and that was in a 152 when my mate got his PPL.

Have SEEN a few hairy landings there though, including the BA L-1011 that failed to stop at the end of the runway(due to touching down 50% of the way down the runway).

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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NM62 said:
mybrainhurts said:
If you think that's bad, you want to see Leeds Bradford...hehe

What's it like?

Well, not as good as Alton Towers, but you're doomed anyway, so you're not missing anything.

Wear brown trousers....hehe
They only do that to scare the southerners smile

Been in and out of LBA nearly 100 times - only had 1 very near miss and that was in a 152 when my mate got his PPL.

Have SEEN a few hairy landings there though, including the BA L-1011 that failed to stop at the end of the runway(due to touching down 50% of the way down the runway).
I was talking to a former Lightning pilot who returned from holiday to Leeds Bradford. Said he'd have failed the pilot if he'd been his instructor...hehe

NM62

952 posts

179 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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mybrainhurts said:
NM62 said:
mybrainhurts said:
If you think that's bad, you want to see Leeds Bradford...hehe

What's it like?

Well, not as good as Alton Towers, but you're doomed anyway, so you're not missing anything.

Wear brown trousers....hehe
They only do that to scare the southerners smile

Been in and out of LBA nearly 100 times - only had 1 very near miss and that was in a 152 when my mate got his PPL.

Have SEEN a few hairy landings there though, including the BA L-1011 that failed to stop at the end of the runway(due to touching down 50% of the way down the runway).
I was talking to a former Lightning pilot who returned from holiday to Leeds Bradford. Said he'd have failed the pilot if he'd been his instructor...hehe
I think a lot of them are down to the skills of the pilot, I certainly appreciate how well my mate reacted.

The French Concorde pilot summed it up nicely when he did what he described as a 'Normal Crosswind Landing' and shrugged.

There have been many "saves" at LBA - Closest I saw was a Spanish operated 737 which came out of low cloud after being talked down, at what looked like 90 degree wing down to the runway, he went around then came in on his second attempt.

LBA did/does suffer a lot from Wind and Low cloud but I remember once when they were the only Airport in Northern England not closed by Low Lying Freezing Fog - being the highest Airport in the country helped that day.

moleamol

15,887 posts

292 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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For those of us that haven't revised our airport codes can anyone tell me where LBA is?

NM62

952 posts

179 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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moleamol said:
For those of us that haven't revised our airport codes can anyone tell me where LBA is?
Sorry - LBA = Leeds Bradford Airport = EGNM

As per the second post

Edited by NM62 on Thursday 7th January 16:51

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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Yeadon to us old timers.

NM62

952 posts

179 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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Eric Mc said:
Yeadon to us old timers.
My home town and where I spent most of my spare time from the age of about 10 smile until I left in 1988.

Also had a weekend job at the National Car Park too.

Think I have some old photos of the Avro Factory where they produced Lancasters somewhere - must dig them out.

Edited by NM62 on Thursday 7th January 17:10

moleamol

15,887 posts

292 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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NM62 said:
Sorry - LBA = Leeds Bradford Airport = EGNM

As per the second post
Cheers, I didn't associate the two!

griffdude

1,916 posts

277 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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Watched them all & not overly impressed: Only 1 or 2 were coordinated.
I used to fly the shed & that was a real redcard in a X-wind, but it was good training. Fly bigger jets now & they're much easier but the same technique still applies.

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Thursday 7th January 2016
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micky metro said:
how scary is it from the inside?
Just so you don't worry...

If you see three lanes marked out on the runway, you're on the M42...

S7Paul

2,103 posts

263 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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I've been in a few landings like that. I hate Dash 8's but flying out of Southampton means that what I usually travel on. It's even worse now that Flybe are downsizing their Embraer fleet in favour of more Dash 8's. The only time I can recall starting to feel queasy was on a Dash 8 on approach to Manchester. There was a guy a few rows behind me who was making good use of the sick bag.

I also get to fly in a King Air 200 from Farnborough to Walney Island (near Barrow in Furness, and reputedly the windiest place on the west coast). It's quite normal to come in sideways, get it somewhere over the runway and then execute a controlled crash. All good fun!

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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Having watched a lot of twin turboprops landing across wind, I reckon the best method is the Stuka approach...

Steve_W

1,569 posts

206 months

Friday 8th January 2016
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Reckon a few of them are pretending they're flying into Khe Sanh under fire? smile