Dornier Museum Freidrichshafen

[HoHoHo]

I've been working at Aero 2016 in Friedrichshafen and had some free time prior to coming home and found I had a spare hour to kill

500m up the road from our hotel was the Dornier Museum and what a great way to spend a few hours. Not in the league of Duxford et al but a very interesting place with some interesting facts I never knew.

All taken with my iPhone but you get the idea.

Pride of place and sitting outside the building was this little beauty....









Uses the engine from the Harrier, only a few made but what a fine looking aircraft.

There a host of aircraft, missiles and airship displays through out the building and a few aircraft outside to have a look around. Personally I love the fact you can get up close and have a touch of these magnificent works of art

Another interesting and very early example of STOL with tilting propellers!



Flying at its most romantic!



First Class seating has thankfully improved a touch!



Or of course the seaplanes they were very famous for







Some more outside





If you ever find yourself in that part of Germany with an hour or two to kill it's certainly worth the 10 Euro entrance fee.

[Fugazi]

The Flugwerft Schleissheim near Munich, has one of those Dornier D0-31's and it's an impressive beast close up, especially the bunch of engines in each of the wing tip pods to provide lift. Here's my poor attempt at a camera phone picture with the DO-31 lurking in the middle, I was however getting a bit drunk on free wine at the time.



We actually have one of those RB.162 engines used in the wing tip pods, sectioned in the foyer of our engineering dept at Liverpool uni.

[saaby93]

HoHoHo said:

I've been working at Aero 2016 in Friedrichshafen and had some free time prior to coming home and found I had a spare hour to kill

500m up the road from our hotel was the Dornier Museum and what a great way to spend a few hours. Not in the league of Duxford et al but a very interesting place with some interesting facts I never knew.

All taken with my iPhone but you get the idea.

Pride of place and sitting outside the building was this little beauty....









Uses the engine from the Harrier, only a few made but what a fine looking aircraft.

How's that work then? It has one Harrier engine on one wing and somehow stays flat in a hover

[HoHoHo]

saaby93 said:

HoHoHo said:

I've been working at Aero 2016 in Friedrichshafen and had some free time prior to coming home and found I had a spare hour to kill

500m up the road from our hotel was the Dornier Museum and what a great way to spend a few hours. Not in the league of Duxford et al but a very interesting place with some interesting facts I never knew.

All taken with my iPhone but you get the idea.

Pride of place and sitting outside the building was this little beauty....









Uses the engine from the Harrier, only a few made but what a fine looking aircraft.

How's that work then? It has one Harrier engine on one wing and somehow stays flat in a hover

It's got two Harrier engines, one on each wing but I see what you mean, my picture has rather cleverly made it look like there's only one engine!

[saaby93]

HoHoHo said:

It's got two Harrier engines, one on each wing but I see what you mean, my picture has rather cleverly made it look like there's only one engine!

Oh good
I thought it could be one of those plane designs with an offset fuselage

[Fugazi]

There's a Pegasus engine under each wing, which provide thrust for forward flight and hover then a further 4 RB.162 engines in each wing pod to provide extra thrust while in hover.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3YueCf1JeI

[mebe]

I was looking at the first picture of the Do-31 thinking "wings look too small" wonder if some proportion of lift came from the nozzles even in forward flight?

[Simpo Two]

That would seem very wasteful of fuel.

[davepoth]

mebe said:

I was looking at the first picture of the Do-31 thinking "wings look too small" wonder if some proportion of lift came from the nozzles even in forward flight?

You only need most of the wing at takeoff and landing, so as this plane was designed for STOL using the lift jets there was no need for so much wing.

[IanMorewood]

Would be a swine to fly keeping engine output and nozzles appropriately balanced in anything other than full forwards.

[mebe]

davepoth said:

You only need most of the wing at takeoff and landing, so as this plane was designed for STOL using the lift jets there was no need for so much wing.

Ah good point.

[AlexIT]

I'm quite often in the area and didn't know about this museum.
I will for sure pay a visit there when I have some spare time, thanks for the tip OP

[Krikkit]

Wow, that 31 is fantastic. Clever having 4x turbofans in each wing end to boost the lift, although you could ditch them if you could fit the later Pegasus in there.

Definitely on my list to visit next time I'm around there, easy enough to divert around Switzerland to avoid the toll and have a cheeky stop there.

[wildcat45]

What's the Maitime Palrol Aircraft in the last picture please?

[Eric Mc]

Breguet Atlantique.

[wildcat45]

Eric Mc said:

Breguet Atlantique.

Thanks Eric. I thought it looked something like that. So why is in a Dormier museum? License built?

[Eric Mc]

In the 1960s and 70s, Dornier and Bregeut worked together on a number of projects, most famously the Alpha-Jet trainer. I expect the Atlantique is there because of the link between the two organisations.

[wildcat45]

Eric Mc said:

In the 1960s and 70s, Dornier and Bregeut worked together on a number of projects, most famously the Alpha-Jet trainer. I expect the Atlantique is there because of the link between the two organisations.

Yes, that would make sense.

Very purposeful looking aircraft. I like it.