Gulls - are they getting worse?
Gulls - are they getting worse?
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Itsallicanafford

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2,939 posts

188 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Having just returned from a week in Salcombe in Devon, is it just me or are the gulls getting worse?

By worse, i mean swopping down and taking food off people's plate while they are still eating it (which is especially bad when you have paid the thick end of £10 for a breakfast, for a gull to eat it for you!), if you ate anything outside they was always one watching you ready to pouch...there also seems to be a lot more of them now?

I've been going to Salcombe for 30 years, i cannot remember them being so numerous, bold or bloody loud!


anonymous-user

83 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Back in the 50s and 60s, my granddad used to pay for the family holiday to whitby by shooting gulls, he would leave the family to go shooting and then hand in a bag of gull tails into the council and was paid per gull he shot.


BigMon

6,343 posts

158 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Just like foxes, they've become much bolder. Why bother chasing after fishing trawlers when there's an abundance of food easily available.

I don't know why it's happened (more fast food perhaps leading to easily available food being chucked on the floor) but it is a problem. In Torquay they rip open bin liners and, at the school I used to work at, they would sit on the buildings at break time and swoop down on the rubbish the kids had left (they occasionally wandered into the school by mistake which was amusing, though they are big sods up close and you wouldn't want to get pecked by one).

Trophy Husband

3,924 posts

136 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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You want to try living in Conwy!! They are much more prevalent and bolder than I recall. They are on the Red List so classed as threatened/endangered so killing one is a big no-no. Definite prosecution if caught. a group of Conwy residents have paid to have a group of people with birds of prey patrol the town and let their birds fly to try to ease their numbers. We'll see!!

ikarl

4,039 posts

228 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Quite topical, there was something on the BBC about this recently. The expert they had on explained it was much akin to gang mentality, there are so many of them and they're not scared of humans (in the main) and so they get more and more confident.

From what I remember, birds of prey don't work....and if you're eating out and about, stay close to a wall, so the gull can't 'swoop' on you.


Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Too many fast food outlets.

Itsallicanafford

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2,939 posts

188 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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ah, sounds like it is becoming an increasing problem...they cannot be culled?

Cotty

42,215 posts

313 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Itsallicanafford said:
ah, sounds like it is becoming an increasing problem...they cannot be culled?
http://www.rspb.org.uk/makeahomeforwildlife/advice/gardening/unwantedvisitors/gulls/thelaw.aspx
"Gulls and the law. All species of gull are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 and the Wildlife (Northern Ireland) Order 1985. This makes it illegal to intentionally or, in Scotland and Northern Ireland, recklessly injure or kill any gull or damage or destroy an active nest or its contents".

Timmy40

13,014 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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This is Pistonheads so I'm going to blame their bad behavior on Grange Hill.

It's a problem everywhere in Bath the council spent thousands on a fancy paint that was supposed to make the gulls think the tops of buildings were on fire. It as about as effective as those fake bomb detectors that were being sold in Iraq ( probably the same guy ).

Itsallicanafford

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2,939 posts

188 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Cotty said:
http://www.rspb.org.uk/makeahomeforwildlife/advice...
"Gulls and the law. All species of gull are protected under the Wildlife and Countryside Act 1981 and the Wildlife (Northern Ireland) Order 1985. This makes it illegal to intentionally or, in Scotland and Northern Ireland, recklessly injure or kill any gull or damage or destroy an active nest or its contents".
I see...to me they were a minor irritation while on holiday, it would really get me down to live with them all the time...

There must be a tipping point where the populations become so large as to warrant culling on public health grounds?

Sheets Tabuer

21,384 posts

244 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Does anyone remember when you only saw gulls at the coast and wood pigeons in the woods?

I have gulls circling my the skies above my house after dark making a racket and I live as far from the sea as you can.

Simpo Two

92,662 posts

294 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Sheets Tabuer said:
Does anyone remember when you only saw gulls at the coast and wood pigeons in the woods?

I have gulls circling my the skies above my house after dark making a racket and I live as far from the sea as you can.
I guess if gulls can live on human food not just fish then they can live anywhere. Darwin in action.

In 20 years they'll probably have opposable thumbs!

Cotty

42,215 posts

313 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Simpo Two said:
I guess if gulls can live on human food not just fish then they can live anywhere. Darwin in action.

In 20 years they'll probably have opposable thumbs!
Probably need those to open their crisps
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/01/crafty-...

Timmy40

13,014 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Cotty said:
Simpo Two said:
I guess if gulls can live on human food not just fish then they can live anywhere. Darwin in action.

In 20 years they'll probably have opposable thumbs!
Probably need those to open their crisps
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/07/01/crafty-...
It'll start with one seagull then some chavs will copy it, before you know it they'll be a whole flock of them in there nicking things.

Europa1

10,923 posts

217 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Why is a thread on seagulls nicking people's food in Boats, Planes and Trains? confused

Timmy40

13,014 posts

227 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Europa1 said:
Why is a thread on seagulls nicking people's food in Boats, Planes and Trains? confused
Because the seagulls need a get away vehicle? They can't drive so it's either get a train, hitch on a plane or perch on a boat.

Edited by Timmy40 on Wednesday 3rd August 16:36

Ali Chappussy

876 posts

174 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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I was in Whitby the week before last and watched a gull pull a woman's purse from her bag and try and take off with it in its beak. It didn't but it shows just how daring these little buggars are getting.

Cotty

42,215 posts

313 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Timmy40 said:
It'll start with one seagull then some chavs will copy it, before you know it they'll be a whole flock of them in there nicking things.
A flock of chavs is that the correct collective noun hehe

TC8

853 posts

219 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Ali Chappussy said:
I was in Whitby the week before last and watched a gull pull a woman's purse from her bag and try and take off with it in its beak. It didn't but it shows just how daring these little buggars are getting.
Whitby is infested with the bd things, often encouraged by morons who feed them on the beaches.

Itsallicanafford

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188 months

Wednesday 3rd August 2016
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Europa1 said:
Why is a thread on seagulls nicking people's food in Boats, Planes and Trains? confused
boating reference really?