van driver rescues lady's shopping cart at level crossing
van driver rescues lady's shopping cart at level crossing
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saaby93

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DaveH23

3,355 posts

199 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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That looks like a manned crossing as well.

Why would the operator put the barrier down when they can see she is still on the crossing or are they automatic when the train hits a certain trigger point on the track?

Boatbuoy

1,975 posts

191 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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More to the point, where on earth did the guy who helped out get a name like that from?

227bhp

10,203 posts

157 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Boatbuoy said:
More to the point, where on earth did the guy who helped out get a name like that from?
From his parents.

Boatbuoy

1,975 posts

191 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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227bhp said:
Boatbuoy said:
More to the point, where on earth did the guy who helped out get a name like that from?
From his parents.
Thank you for the clarification, I'm now a wiser individual.

longshot

3,286 posts

227 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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DaveH23 said:
That looks like a manned crossing as well.

Why would the operator put the barrier down when they can see she is still on the crossing or are they automatic when the train hits a certain trigger point on the track?
Because there's a train coming and they have to stop people driving over.
She can get out of the way, a car can't.

GTO-3R

7,992 posts

242 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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longshot said:
Because there's a train coming and they have to stop people driving over.
She can get out of the way, a car can't.
A car could get out of the way as it's onlt a half barrier.

PulsatingStar

1,719 posts

277 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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GTO-3R said:
A car could get out of the way as it's onlt a half barrier.
Its not they just dont lower the other half until she is off. You can see it come down if you watch the whole vide.

silverfoxcc

8,367 posts

174 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Boatbuoy said:
More to the point, where on earth did the guy who helped out get a name like that from?
The vicar had a stutter?

Mandat

4,609 posts

267 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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The article says that "calls have been made for safety improvements" because of this incident.

What sort of improvements are being called for, and why?

The old lady was slow in crossing, but she wasn't in any particular danger even when the barriers came down since she had plenty of time to get across the tracks to the barrier edge.

Seems like a non story, which is just being dressed up as news because of the existence of the video footage.

V8Matthew

2,675 posts

195 months

Thursday 1st September 2016
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Can't knock the van driver, he sees the barriers are coming down and a little old lady is still only halfway across the railway. Not much time to judge whether this is safe or normal for a crossing of this type. This chap is a refreshing change from the 'me me me' attitude you see so much of.

saaby93

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Friday 2nd September 2016
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Mandat said:
The article says that "calls have been made for safety improvements" because of this incident.

What sort of improvements are being called for, and why?

The old lady was slow in crossing, but she wasn't in any particular danger even when the barriers came down since she had plenty of time to get across the tracks to the barrier edge.

Seems like a non story, which is just being dressed up as news because of the existence of the video footage.
Isnt the 'problem' that the barriers are arranged for traffic flow so the nearside one comes down before the farside.
Pedestrians can take opposite flow so can walk through the up barrier but prevented from leaving by the down barrier. Should there be side pedestrian gates?
Does it happen often?

Mandat

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267 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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saaby93 said:
Isnt the 'problem' that the barriers are arranged for traffic flow so the nearside one comes down before the farside.
Pedestrians can take opposite flow so can walk through the up barrier but prevented from leaving by the down barrier. Should there be side pedestrian gates?
Does it happen often?
I thought that there might be a pedestrian gate to allow exit when the barriers are down, but conversely such gates might get abused by those who want to get across the crossing after the barriers have come down.

Good question on does it happen often. I suspect that it does not, and in the rare occurrence that it does, the pedestrian can simply wait at the barrier edge until they are raised again.

saaby93

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Friday 2nd September 2016
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Mandat said:
I thought that there might be a pedestrian gate to allow exit when the barriers are down, but conversely such gates might get abused by those who want to get across the crossing after the barriers have come down.
All gated or stiled pedestrian crossings would have that issue wink
But none of those try to prevent you getting off the crossing.

Talking of which let me do a new thread

Nickyboy

6,823 posts

263 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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The red lights started flashing when she was just over half way across which means she probably began crossing under the orange light

Gareth1974

3,477 posts

168 months

Friday 2nd September 2016
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The signaller initiates the then automated process of starting the warning lights, audible warning and barrier lowering. The signal is only cleared for a train once the signaller seperately verifies that the crossing is clear once the barriers have lowered. In this instance, even if the woman had become trapped, the visual check would have prevented a train from being signalled towards the crossing.

Some crossings are being automated with obstacle detection equipment, removing the need for the signaller to carry out the visual check.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-24760199