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surveyor

Original Poster:

18,616 posts

208 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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God knows why but the original thread is locked.....

Sat in departures and lifted my head just at the right time. Bit sad to be honest...


jmorgan

36,010 posts

308 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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Really sad year last year and missed it this year.

Gratuitous rock n roll shot
Vulcan take off by Jeff, on Flickr

FourWheelDrift

91,901 posts

308 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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surveyor said:
God knows why but the original thread is locked.....
No idea but when on a mobile the screen can jump around a bit when loading and sometimes the wrong thing is pressed (maybe that)

I have reopened it.

droopsnoot

14,185 posts

266 months

Tuesday 18th October 2016
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I thought the original thread had been intentionally locked because it started off at the point where they were preparing for the first test flight, and ran through until the end of flying. I'm sure I recall a suggestion that it would be a good time to close it down.

aeropilot

39,772 posts

251 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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surveyor said:
God knows why but the original thread is locked.....

Sat in departures and lifted my head just at the right time. Bit sad to be honest...

Looks like she's being pushed/towed out/back for an anti-det run.

Jezzerh

816 posts

146 months

Wednesday 19th October 2016
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surveyor said:
God knows why but the original thread is locked.....

Sat in departures and lifted my head just at the right time. Bit sad to be honest...

They moved the Canberra yesterday as well.

Also, you can see my house in your photo :-)

The Brummie

9,424 posts

211 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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Thread Resurrection!!!!!

Apparently 558 was run up to 90% power, complete with the howl, last Saturday.

Now call me cynical but after being untouched for 9 months why would they do that?

And bearing in mind the amount of 558 geeks on PH & throughout the aviation world how come the engine run went unnoticed by anyone?????

FourWheelDrift

91,901 posts

308 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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The Brummie said:
Thread Resurrection!!!!!

Apparently 558 was run up to 90% power, complete with the howl, last Saturday.

Now call me cynical but after being untouched for 9 months why would they do that?

And bearing in mind the amount of 558 geeks on PH & throughout the aviation world how come the engine run went unnoticed by anyone?????
To scare the Coronavirus away.

surveyor

Original Poster:

18,616 posts

208 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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The Brummie said:
Thread Resurrection!!!!!

Apparently 558 was run up to 90% power, complete with the howl, last Saturday.

Now call me cynical but after being untouched for 9 months why would they do that?

And bearing in mind the amount of 558 geeks on PH & throughout the aviation world how come the engine run went unnoticed by anyone?????
They sell tickets. It's a performing monkey.

aeropilot

39,772 posts

251 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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The Brummie said:
Thread Resurrection!!!!!

Apparently 558 was run up to 90% power, complete with the howl, last Saturday.

Now call me cynical but after being untouched for 9 months why would they do that?

And bearing in mind the amount of 558 geeks on PH & throughout the aviation world how come the engine run went unnoticed by anyone?????
Given that public can't really access the place as its an international airport, and given the lack of flights happening there, I guess that's why they were able to drag the poor thing and give it a run.
I always thought that you needed airflow through the intakes for the howl, and it wasn't audible during a static engine run?

The Brummie

9,424 posts

211 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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aeropilot said:
The Brummie said:
Thread Resurrection!!!!!

Apparently 558 was run up to 90% power, complete with the howl, last Saturday.

Now call me cynical but after being untouched for 9 months why would they do that?

And bearing in mind the amount of 558 geeks on PH & throughout the aviation world how come the engine run went unnoticed by anyone?????
Given that public can't really access the place as its an international airport, and given the lack of flights happening there, I guess that's why they were able to drag the poor thing and give it a run.
I always thought that you needed airflow through the intakes for the howl, and it wasn't audible during a static engine run?
I have seen a video which has the howl. Which is odd, as you say, because in all the times I have seen 558 I have only ever heard the howl when she was flying.

A guy asked the same question on the Facebook post - he got shouted down & banned!!!

I will see if I can find the post & put it on here.

DrDeAtH

3,678 posts

256 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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The howl is caused within the intakes, you can actually hear the airflow noise transition before the howl at 90% power. The airflow begins to whistle a little as this happens...
It doesn't need to be flying to create this. Its just airflow into the engines and the slightly restricted size of the intakes.
This only happens on the aircraft with 200 series Olympus engines.
The 300 series aircraft (XM655) have much larger intakes which cured the restriction, thus losing the howl.


Lead Engineer XL426 London Southend Airport.

Tony1963

5,808 posts

186 months

Monday 24th August 2020
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aeropilot said:

I always thought that you needed airflow through the intakes for the howl, and it wasn't audible during a static engine run?
If the engines are turning, there’s air flowing into the air intakes...

Riley Blue

22,944 posts

250 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Having heard the howl when the aircraft is on the ground and stationary at Doncaster I can confirm it does happen. It's just not the way I would like to hear it however that debate is futilefrown

Five years on, has there been any progress towards the trust's aims?

DrDeAtH

3,678 posts

256 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Riley Blue said:
Five years on, has there been any progress towards the trust's aims?
m


Nope

Mabbs9

1,577 posts

242 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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DrDeAtH said:
The howl is caused within the intakes, you can actually hear the airflow noise transition before the howl at 90% power. The airflow begins to whistle a little as this happens...
It doesn't need to be flying to create this. Its just airflow into the engines and the slightly restricted size of the intakes.
This only happens on the aircraft with 200 series Olympus engines.
The 300 series aircraft (XM655) have much larger intakes which cured the restriction, thus losing the howl.


Lead Engineer XL426 London Southend Airport.
Thanks

aeropilot

39,772 posts

251 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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DrDeAtH said:
Riley Blue said:
Five years on, has there been any progress towards the trust's aims?
m


Nope
hehe



Krupp88

607 posts

151 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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The Brummie said:
A guy asked the same question on the Facebook post - he got shouted down & banned!!!
There is a long running thread on 'local' Facebook groups however its almost worth setting on up for the gems that are aviation pages.

The historic aviation world is a perfect storm of obsessives, nuts, geekery, personalities and politics. And I say this as someone with a garage of WW2 aircraft relics and upteen bookcases of military history books.

aeropilot

39,772 posts

251 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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Krupp88 said:
The historic aviation world is a perfect storm of obsessives, nuts, geekery, personalities and politics. And I say this as someone with a garage of WW2 aircraft relics and upteen bookcases of military history books.
yes


eccles

14,200 posts

246 months

Tuesday 25th August 2020
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DrDeAtH said:
The howl is caused within the intakes, you can actually hear the airflow noise transition before the howl at 90% power. The airflow begins to whistle a little as this happens...
It doesn't need to be flying to create this. Its just airflow into the engines and the slightly restricted size of the intakes.
This only happens on the aircraft with 200 series Olympus engines.
The 300 series aircraft (XM655) have much larger intakes which cured the restriction, thus losing the howl.


Lead Engineer XL426 London Southend Airport.
As the many thousands of crappy amateur videos of Vulcans taking off at air shows will prove.