What is this engineering train?
What is this engineering train?
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Europa1

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10,923 posts

217 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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It is 3 or 4 tanks, and what looks like one generator, with a Class 66 at each end. The tanks and generator thing are blue with the Network Rail logo. It's been at Foxton station as my train has been heading the other way for the last few mornings.

Boatbuoy

1,975 posts

191 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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MitchT

17,114 posts

238 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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It's actually the rail head cleaning train. Often seen at this time of year blasting slippery deposits (mostly leaf mulch) off the rails.

ecsrobin

18,642 posts

194 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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Whilst watching that YouTube video it showed this: https://youtu.be/cg7Rq8YTWHU that is a seriously long train for the UK network is it not?

legzr1

3,885 posts

168 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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ecsrobin said:
Whilst watching that YouTube video it showed this: https://youtu.be/cg7Rq8YTWHU that is a seriously long train for the UK network is it not?
Quite a sight watching it in action.

Hauled to site by leading loco then splits in half and becomes self powered for the duration of the work, is recouped then hauled back to depot by the loco on the rear for reloading.

Saved NR an absolute fortune in reballasting over the years.

Think Tight5 from this parish still gets to drive them.

Europa1

Original Poster:

10,923 posts

217 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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Boatbuoy said:
Thanks for the video - that's the one!

spitfire-ian

4,209 posts

257 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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ecsrobin said:
Whilst watching that YouTube video it showed this: https://youtu.be/cg7Rq8YTWHU that is a seriously long train for the UK network is it not?
Oh that's where it's gone now.

The bd thing came past our house most nights for the best part of a year, not that my inner trainspotting geek minded too much smile


Network Rail High Output Ballast Cleaner by Ian, on Flickr

P5BNij

15,875 posts

135 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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spitfire-ian said:
ecsrobin said:
Whilst watching that YouTube video it showed this: https://youtu.be/cg7Rq8YTWHU that is a seriously long train for the UK network is it not?
Oh that's where it's gone now.

The bd thing came past our house most nights for the best part of a year, not that my inner trainspotting geek minded too much smile


Network Rail High Output Ballast Cleaner by Ian, on Flickr
That's one of our regular jobs when it's working on the West Coast or Midland Mainline, the 'bd thing' can weigh up to 3,300 tons fully loaded (including a Class 66 at each end), is exactly half a mile long with the couplings stretched and takes a mile and a quarter to come to a stand from its maximum speed of 60mph. Lots of fun on gradients, even more so on a wet rail!


tight5

2,747 posts

188 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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MitchT said:
It's actually the rail head cleaning train.
It's actually the rail head treatment train !
wink

Legz, don't get on HOBC anymore, ANOTHER contract we can't keep.
rolleyes

markmullen

15,877 posts

263 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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I found this on youtube about the long one, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=furiKA-QgoI

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

218 months

Friday 11th November 2016
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At the risk of sounding stupid, what exactly is the point of cleaning the stones?

On one of those videos it shows the machine basically sucking the stones up then spitting them back out.

Flying Phil

1,735 posts

174 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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northwest monkey said:
At the risk of sounding stupid, what exactly is the point of cleaning the stones?

On one of those videos it shows the machine basically sucking the stones up then spitting them back out.
Quite understandable Q - After time the ballast (stones) gets smaller and accumulates dirt/dust/debris and no longer allows water to drain away from the sleepers/track, thus the track bed becomes softer and less able to support the rails. New ballast allows the water to be drained away.

AJB88

15,710 posts

200 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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I deal with the HOBC, The RHTT is not something I deal with directly but my office does.

Chrisgr31

14,275 posts

284 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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This is a pretty amazing bit of kit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wlj2vbSB9og plenty to go wrong. Imagine being the designer of it!

gooner1

10,223 posts

208 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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Flying Phil said:
Quite understandable Q - After time the ballast (stones) gets smaller and accumulates dirt/dust/debris and no longer allows water to drain away from the sleepers/track, thus the track bed becomes softer and less able to support the rails. New ballast allows the water to be drained away.

Drainage, possibly the biggest cause of problems track wise.

legzr1

3,885 posts

168 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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tight5 said:
It's actually the rail head treatment train !
wink

Legz, don't get on HOBC anymore, ANOTHER contract we can't keep.
rolleyes
frown

northwest monkey

6,370 posts

218 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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Flying Phil said:
northwest monkey said:
At the risk of sounding stupid, what exactly is the point of cleaning the stones?

On one of those videos it shows the machine basically sucking the stones up then spitting them back out.
Quite understandable Q - After time the ballast (stones) gets smaller and accumulates dirt/dust/debris and no longer allows water to drain away from the sleepers/track, thus the track bed becomes softer and less able to support the rails. New ballast allows the water to be drained away.
Cheers for that - I love knowing stuff like this!

MitchT

17,114 posts

238 months

Saturday 12th November 2016
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tight5 said:
MitchT said:
It's actually the rail head cleaning train.
It's actually the rail head treatment train !
wink
Ah, yes, the RHTT.

demic

669 posts

190 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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What makes leaf mulch slippy? Moisture. Let's make it wet. Good idea chaps, my wheels are now square and my pants are no longer fit for purpose.

lufbramatt

5,663 posts

163 months

Tuesday 15th November 2016
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Europa1 said:
Boatbuoy said:
Thanks for the video - that's the one!
Why do they need 2 locos on that? doesn't exactly look like a heavy load.