Any Ideas? A What Speedboat Q
Any Ideas? A What Speedboat Q
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Humper

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Saturday 28th January 2017
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Seen an amazing amount of knowledge on classic car id's on here, wondered if there is the same amount for old speedboats? Due to an Ebay accident I am now the proud owner of this boat, and it would be handy to know the make when registering it .
Any ideas?


Simpo Two

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Saturday 28th January 2017
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No idea, but probably all they'd want to be able to charge you money is length, power and maybe top speed.

grumpy52

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195 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Fletcher ?

J3JCV

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184 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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I'm going to say Phantom 16 or 18? Looks like the hull, but not sure on the deck / windscreen arrangement.

Whats the length, that will help.

J3JCV

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184 months

Saturday 28th January 2017
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Actually, nope - don't recognise the chine? (could be wrong word) in the topsides.

Simpo Two

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Saturday 28th January 2017
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J3JCV said:
Actually, nope - don't recognise the chine? (could be wrong word) in the topsides.
Chine is the angle between sides and hull bottom. You probably mean 'above the gunwhale'.

MOTORVATOR

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276 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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Phantom. Go and wash your mouth out. laugh

And before anyone says, its not a Marshan Or Ring either.

Old winner maybe but the spray rails don't look right for that. The front end of the top deck is vaguely Tintorera but back from that is not right and certainly the bottom is not right either but possibly that means it goes back to the original smuggler mouldings.

The Tint though was a top hat deck to hull fitting where the two flanges come outwards and are rivetted together as opposed to the bisquit tin type of deck join.

Maybe an early Picton or Concorde but I don't think so.

Or of course it could one of a multitude of the cottage industry mouldings that never really got of the ground.

Take some more pics all round and I might be able to help further.

dvs_dave

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254 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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I was going to offer my encyclopedic, yet remarkably useless library of obscure boat builder factoids, but it seems I was beaten to it.

Humper

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191 months

Sunday 29th January 2017
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J3JCV said:
I'm going to say Phantom 16 or 18? Looks like the hull, but not sure on the deck / windscreen arrangement.

Whats the length, that will help.
It's about 16 foot.

Humper

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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MOTORVATOR said:
ldings that never really got of the ground.

Take some more pics all round and I might be able to help further.
Will get some later, here's the interior.


And the other side

smileymikey

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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This is why I dont drink alcohol anymore wink

MOTORVATOR

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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Well I never expected the other side to look like a negative of the first picture. rofl

What we actually need is a couple of pictures of things like the transom, engine well and running surface to stand a chance.

J3JCV

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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Simpo Two said:
J3JCV said:
Actually, nope - don't recognise the chine? (could be wrong word) in the topsides.
Chine is the angle between sides and hull bottom. You probably mean 'above the gunwhale'.
I was looking at the crease like line down the topsides, so below the deck join. Looks with my bad eyesight like the bow flares out above it?

Some vintage Suzuki on the back too!

Humper

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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MOTORVATOR said:
Well I never expected the other side to look like a negative of the first picture. rofl

What we actually need is a couple of pictures of things like the transom, engine well and running surface to stand a chance.
Better to be sure wink






Simpo Two

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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J3JCV said:
I was looking at the crease like line down the topsides, so below the deck join. Looks with my bad eyesight like the bow flares out above it?
Yeah, that's a 'crease line', ie folly with little or no hydrodynamic function smile

MOTORVATOR

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Sunday 29th January 2017
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Well there's nothing particularly distinguishing about those pics.

Certainly nothing common like Global or Welsh Powerboats that I can see so I think you are looking at a small builder. Likely inland as well with the shallow deadrise.

Looking at the dash I'm not actually sure the deck is off that hull to start with. And the crease line may well be an addition to a previously lower hull mould. Nothing wrong with that though, a lot of boats you see are cobbled together bits of other boats that just develop rather than being an original plug.

If there's no other markings readily visible on the boat have a look up under the front deck or the back of the dash. Sometimes there's builders marks there that will give up some info.