M1 closed at Kegworth due to Jet2 Inbound emergency

[surveyor]

Wonder what this was about...

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-39...

Obviously they are a bit more aware of the M1 and that it's a stone throw from East Midlands, but I don't think this is a everyday reaction.

[Simpo Two]

The post-Shoreham drive for perfect safety. If this keeps up expect the M25 to be shut every week 'because you can't be too careful'.

[saaby93]

Simpo Two said:

The post-Shoreham drive for perfect safety. If this keeps up expect the M25 to be shut every week 'because you can't be too careful'.

no what'll happen is Murphy will join in and the plane will go off track and find all the people stuck at the closure
Anyone done the risk analysis?
Closing the motorway is likely to lead to a risk of collisions in queuing traffic = risk X
The risk of of the plane hitting the motorway = risk Y
Which is more likely?

[Simpo Two]

I'm not sure they think like that. It's more a back-covering insurance-pleasing headline-avoiding run for the hills that todays' culture breeds. It's a media-fed hysteria that can trace its roots back to Diana in 1997.

[ashleyman]

I just think it's funny that the story references the fact that the Highways Agency tweeted to motorists. Are they suggesting drivers look at Twitter to see why there is so much traffic?

[FourWheelDrift]

I think there are still memories of British Midland flight 92 crashing on the motorway at Kegworth in 1989 involved in that decision.

[surveyor]

FourWheelDrift said:

I think there are still memories of British Midland flight 92 crashing on the motorway at Kegworth in 1989 involved in that decision.

But they don't do this for all emergency's. So what was it about this one?

[saaby93]

Besides...
the good thing about the Kegworth crash was everyone got together and formed a human chain to get people off the plane.
The video has been shared around the world with 'do you have have public training for this sort of thing'
erm no - everyone got together , realised a job needed to be done and got on with it

At first the rescue services tried to people to 'go away' but soon realised they were useful

http://img.youtube.com/vi/bLh7bMnlNyU/0.jpg


http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-new...
this video contains content from BBC worldwide - who has blcoked it on copyright grounds

How do you watch it then?

Edited by saaby93 on Sunday 5th March 21:59

[mcdjl]

Did they shut the a453 that runs between the runway and the airport as well I wonder?

[Shakermaker]

They have closed the A23 past Gatwick many times in the past when they have had aircraft on emergency approach. Relatively impressive, a fleet of police cars rushing out and closing the road for a few minutes until the aircraft touches down safely.

[Stedman]

Shakermaker said:

They have closed the A23 past Gatwick many times in the past when they have had aircraft on emergency approach. Relatively impressive, a fleet of police cars rushing out and closing the road for a few minutes until the aircraft touches down safely.

There's also a trip wire about 20 feet in the air at Gatwick parallel to the Brighton Mainline that, if tripped, returns all signals from Crawley (and I believe Balcombe) up to Salfords back to danger, as well as cutting the power between those points. /geekyBPTthings

[steve-5snwi]

Fuel box was the reason, whatever that is. Hopefully jet2's newer fleet should stop some of the issues, some of the 737's are 30 years old. I've had the pleasure of alight being on that shouldn't be resulting in a plane change. Jet2 were very good though.

[Shakermaker]

Stedman said:

Shakermaker said:

They have closed the A23 past Gatwick many times in the past when they have had aircraft on emergency approach. Relatively impressive, a fleet of police cars rushing out and closing the road for a few minutes until the aircraft touches down safely.

There's also a trip wire about 20 feet in the air at Gatwick parallel to the Brighton Mainline that, if tripped, returns all signals from Crawley (and I believe Balcombe) up to Salfords back to danger, as well as cutting the power between those points. /geekyBPTthings

Oooh that's interesting to know also. I will now have to look at that as I next drive past

[Riley Blue]

Shakermaker said:

Stedman said:

Shakermaker said:

They have closed the A23 past Gatwick many times in the past when they have had aircraft on emergency approach. Relatively impressive, a fleet of police cars rushing out and closing the road for a few minutes until the aircraft touches down safely.

There's also a trip wire about 20 feet in the air at Gatwick parallel to the Brighton Mainline that, if tripped, returns all signals from Crawley (and I believe Balcombe) up to Salfords back to danger, as well as cutting the power between those points. /geekyBPTthings

Oooh that's interesting to know also. I will now have to look at that as I next drive past

This one?

[Stedman]

Riley Blue said:

Shakermaker said:

Stedman said:

Shakermaker said:

They have closed the A23 past Gatwick many times in the past when they have had aircraft on emergency approach. Relatively impressive, a fleet of police cars rushing out and closing the road for a few minutes until the aircraft touches down safely.

There's also a trip wire about 20 feet in the air at Gatwick parallel to the Brighton Mainline that, if tripped, returns all signals from Crawley (and I believe Balcombe) up to Salfords back to danger, as well as cutting the power between those points. /geekyBPTthings

Oooh that's interesting to know also. I will now have to look at that as I next drive past

This one?

Bingo! It's really not that high at all

[Trevatanus]

saaby93 said:

Besides...
the good thing about the Kegworth crash was everyone got together and formed a human chain to get people off the plane.
The video has been shared around the world with 'do you have have public training for this sort of thing'
erm no - everyone got together , realised a job needed to be done and got on with it

At first the rescue services tried to people to 'go away' but soon realised they were useful

http://img.youtube.com/vi/bLh7bMnlNyU/0.jpg


http://www.coventrytelegraph.net/news/coventry-new...
this video contains content from BBC worldwide - who has blcoked it on copyright grounds

How do you watch it then?

Edited by saaby93 on Sunday 5th March 21:59

I used to work in freight back then, and we had a trunker that ran up the M1 every night, and I remember thinking that our driver would be affected by this when the newsflash about the BMA Dc9 crashing (the wrong type was initially reported by the media).
Found out the following day that he was most certainly affected.
It came down about 100 metres in front of him, and he was one of the first inside the aircraft helping the injured to evacuate.
He was a changed man after that day.

[mrmaggit]

FourWheelDrift said:

I think there are still memories of British Midland flight 92 crashing on the motorway at Kegworth in 1989 involved in that decision.

When originally planned, the motorway was supposed to be in a tunnel with the ground flat to the airport boundary. Had that been the case, no-one would have died. It was hitting the side of the cutting that killed them.

[surveyor]

mrmaggit said:

FourWheelDrift said:

I think there are still memories of British Midland flight 92 crashing on the motorway at Kegworth in 1989 involved in that decision.

When originally planned, the motorway was supposed to be in a tunnel with the ground flat to the airport boundary. Had that been the case, no-one would have died. It was hitting the side of the cutting that killed them.

I think that hitting the ground at 130mph in a steel tube at a high rate of descent may still have put lives at risk....

[steve-5snwi]

It's sad that if they had been another 100ft higher they would have almost certainly made the airfield

[surveyor]

steve-5snwi said:

It's sad that if they had been another 100ft higher they would have almost certainly made the airfield

I think not.