Irish Coastguard Helicopter down
Irish Coastguard Helicopter down
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grumpy52

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6,050 posts

195 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Helicopter from Sligo has gone down in the sea overnight ,one survivor in critical condition has been recovered .
Lots of debris found and 3 others still missing .
Doesn't look good.
More details at Breakingnewsie.

ecsrobin

18,642 posts

194 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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grumpy52 said:
Helicopter from Sligo has gone down in the sea overnight ,one survivor in critical condition has been recovered .
Lots of debris found and 3 others still missing .
Doesn't look good.
More details at Breakingnewsie.
That info is incorrect. The Sligo aircraft was responding to an incident and Dublin was due to provide topcover. It was the Dublin based aircraft that appears to have been going in for a refuel when it's come down.

grumpy52

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195 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Reading other reports ,I stand corrected .
A sad day and even more personal if it was the Dublin crew that I photgraphed when they did an exercise with the ferry I was on .
The origanal report that I saw was a bit confusing as they stated 4 POB but inferences of having picked up an injured person as was the mission.
Very sad for all involved.

ecsrobin

18,642 posts

194 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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grumpy52 said:
Reading other reports ,I stand corrected .
A sad day and even more personal if it was the Dublin crew that I photgraphed when they did an exercise with the ferry I was on .
The origanal report that I saw was a bit confusing as they stated 4 POB but inferences of having picked up an injured person as was the mission.
Very sad for all involved.
4persons on board and 1 had been recovered to hospital although in a statement on TV/radio they said they didn't think they would make it and they believe the chances of any other survivors is unlikely.

A very sad day for the SAR family.

The track is on MarineTraffic and looks like a let down over the sea prior to landing for refuel in what looks like low cloud looking at forecasts for that time.

matchmaker

9,032 posts

229 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Very sad.

Siko

2,065 posts

271 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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Very sad news indeed, there is a link on pprune to a website reporting the name of the female pilot who was found and has subsequently died. More info on there too, sounds like it was the second approach to a coastal refuelling site in poor weather at night, although it is still very early days to ascertain exactly what happened. I fly the same type of aircraft, albeit in the oil and gas world, as opposed to sar and would bet my life on it. It has an excellent safety record thus far (touch wood) and lots of very useful systems to protect you from the world and other aircraft. My deepest condolences and sincerest sympathies to the families of the crew.

djc206

13,559 posts

154 months

Tuesday 14th March 2017
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How sad to see such brave people lose their lives. My condolences to the families.

grumpy52

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6,050 posts

195 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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It's so sad , living on the coast in a town with a lifeboat we take the SAR boys and girls a little bit for granted .
I always give them a cheery wave as they transit the area .
We see them on the sunny days and envy them being on a "jolly".
Then suddenly we lose a unit .
It's rarely a single team member but a whole crew ,a team .
Those that we for some reason think of as invincible,galloping over the horizon to help those in need .
Suddenly they are very human ,taken from us in but a moment .
A very sad time .

matchmaker

9,032 posts

229 months

Wednesday 15th March 2017
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It's been a long time since any SAR crew were lost whilst on service - the last RNLI deaths were at Penlee, although I recall a non-RNLI crew member being killed by an exploding maroon a few years ago.

Bill Deacon, the winchman of the Sumburgh S61N, died in 1997.

My thoughts are with all the families involved.

ecsrobin

18,642 posts

194 months

Thursday 16th March 2017
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The black box signal was detected yesterday http://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/republic-of-i... although the BBC have mentioned from a quote that it's in around 40m of water.

saaby93

32,038 posts

207 months

Thursday 13th April 2017
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Says it crashed into a rock with a lighthouse
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-39596072


JuniorD

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252 months

Geneve

4,018 posts

248 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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Ructions

4,705 posts

150 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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It seems the island and lighthouse weren't included in obstacle warnings on the computer system.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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Shades of the Air New Zealand crash into Mount Erebus in 1979.

saaby93

32,038 posts

207 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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Eric Mc said:
Shades of the Air New Zealand crash into Mount Erebus in 1979.
A few

Isnt this one more a reliance on computers over the MK1 eyeball?

If the guy with the binos says right hand down a bit - he means right hand down a bit, despite the computer having nothing to worry about



djc206

13,559 posts

154 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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saaby93 said:
A few

Isnt this one more a reliance on computers over the MK1 eyeball?

If the guy with the binos says right hand down a bit - he means right hand down a bit, despite the computer having nothing to worry about
It says weather was moderate to poor vis with fog. I'd suggest that binoculars wouldn't be a great deal of use and that the pilots would be more than use to make use of whatever vis was available.

If there are any pilots here why on earth would an island with a presumably decades if not centuries old lighthouse not be a feature on EGPWS?

ecsrobin

18,642 posts

194 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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I'm still puzzled why they chose to let down so far away from blacksod, obviously routing to their waypoint but surely they could manually select somewhere.

JuniorD

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252 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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Such terrible fortune that the nose went that bit high With the result of the tail dropping sufficiently to impact the rock. Probably only a matter of inches and they'd have had the closest near miss ever.




saaby93

32,038 posts

207 months

Friday 14th April 2017
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djc206 said:
It says weather was moderate to poor vis with fog. I'd suggest that binoculars wouldn't be a great deal of use
They were infra red binos?