Stellar Daisy sinking

[BrettMRC]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-3947...

300+ meters of ship breaking in two... horrifying.

[heisthegaffer]

Very troubling. The news say there are no reported survivors so would it mean they've all sunk with the ship or there have been no lifeboats found yet?

Would this disaster happen so quickly they'd be no time to man the lifeboats or would the crew be trying to save the vessel?

Do lifeboats have emergency beacons etc for resucers to locate?

[BrettMRC]

heisthegaffer said:

Very troubling. The news say there are no reported survivors so would it mean they've all sunk with the ship or there have been no lifeboats found yet?

Would this disaster happen so quickly they'd be no time to man the lifeboats or would the crew be trying to save the vessel?

Do lifeboats have emergency beacons etc for resucers to locate?

2 survivors found quite early on from my understanding - the rest are unaccounted for.

With a 260,000t load I'd imagine the fall to sea floor would be quite rapid if the ship started to break up

[FourWheelDrift]

Suggestions of nickel ore liquefaction and the load moving.

https://www.shipwrecklog.com/log/2017/04/stellar-d...
http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/weird-re...

[BrettMRC]

FourWheelDrift said:

Suggestions of nickel ore liquefaction and the load moving.

https://www.shipwrecklog.com/log/2017/04/stellar-d...
http://www.news.com.au/technology/science/weird-re...

Ouch.

I guess there will be no way of knowing unless they find more survivors.

[hidetheelephants]

heisthegaffer said:

Very troubling. The news say there are no reported survivors so would it mean they've all sunk with the ship or there have been no lifeboats found yet?

Would this disaster happen so quickly they'd be no time to man the lifeboats or would the crew be trying to save the vessel?

Do lifeboats have emergency beacons etc for resucers to locate?

Bulkers sink with monotonous regularity; poor cargo management causing chronic and/or acute structural overloading, shonky design, shonky maintenance all lead to the poor bds onboard getting a bath or worse. See the MV Derbyshire and countless others for details.

SOLAS rules mean there are EPIRB radio beacons on the ship but they have to be taken to the lifeboats or rafts by the crew; if she sank quickly this may not be possible, although EPIRBs are supposed to be mounted externally so they float off and activate if the vessel sinks.

[motomk]

https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2017/17783/...

Very sad, A big ship as mentioned. There are loads of these sized ships waiting off the coasts of Australian ports for Iron Ore and Coal. Mentioned this one was a converted tanker.
I watched a program on the nickel ore ones going missing in South East Asia. Remember one going missing off Western Australia back in the early nineties. I am sure it mentioned one in the North Atlantic but maybe it was the one mentioned above.

[2fast748]

motomk said:

https://www.fleetmon.com/maritime-news/2017/17783/...

Very sad, A big ship as mentioned. There are loads of these sized ships waiting off the coasts of Australian ports for Iron Ore and Coal. Mentioned this one was a converted tanker.
I watched a program on the nickel ore ones going missing in South East Asia. Remember one going missing off Western Australia back in the early nineties. I am sure it mentioned one in the North Atlantic but maybe it was the one mentioned above.

That report is quite sad in that a lot of crew appeared to be ready to abandon ship but only 2 survivors so far. What's the likelihood of the wreck being searched for? Don't big ships sink with alarming regularity?

[FourWheelDrift]

As was the MV Derbyshire, the biggest British ship lost at sea. It was carrying iron ore at the time.

[oobster]

Was this a new'ish ship? Seems almost unthinkable somehow for something that size to go down so quickly that all aboard seemingly didn't make it to life rafts.

Will they send remotely-operated cameras down to video the wreck to try to get some idea of why it sank?

[motomk]

oobster said:

Was this a new'ish ship? Seems almost unthinkable somehow for something that size to go down so quickly that all aboard seemingly didn't make it to life rafts.

Will they send remotely-operated cameras down to video the wreck to try to get some idea of why it sank?

1993 and it was originally built as an oil tanker.

[hidetheelephants]

oobster said:

Will they send remotely-operated cameras down to video the wreck to try to get some idea of why it sank?

Doubtful, it's registered with a flag of convenience and they generally don't give a st about marine safety beyond where it affects the bottom line.