Spitfire accident in France. Pilot OK
Spitfire accident in France. Pilot OK
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Elroy Blue

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8,838 posts

221 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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https://www.facebook.com/quoideneufalonguyon/video...

Spitfire accident in France today. Pilot OK

FourWheelDrift

92,233 posts

313 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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That's PS890 a PR Mk XIX.

http://www.touchdown-aviation.com/flying-legends/p...

Very weird, if that was a take off.

TheRainMaker

7,882 posts

271 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Did well to get out of that OK.


aeropilot

40,522 posts

256 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Have heard a woman in he crowd was injured by a piece of the prop flying into the crowdline.


FourWheelDrift

92,233 posts

313 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Here's another view video not on facebook so no irritating login window either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CM3LM4_9FO0

Simpo Two

92,659 posts

294 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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FourWheelDrift said:
Very weird, if that was a take off.
Very silly; should have held the stick back to keep the tail down. Perhaps he forgot he was in a tail dragger.

FourWheelDrift

92,233 posts

313 months

FourWheelDrift

92,233 posts

313 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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The thing that still worries me is he is going straight towards the cameraman and doesn't appear to be far enough away.

CAPP0

20,836 posts

232 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Simpo Two said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Very weird, if that was a take off.
Very silly; should have held the stick back to keep the tail down. Perhaps he forgot he was in a tail dragger.
With my very very limited experience (about 3 or 4 hours max) of learning in a tail dragger, the video did seem to me that he had the tail up very quickly indeed?

silverfoxcc

8,366 posts

174 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Has the main spar been buggered?

Saleen836

12,489 posts

238 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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Simpo Two said:
FourWheelDrift said:
Very weird, if that was a take off.
Very silly; should have held the stick back to keep the tail down. Perhaps he forgot he was in a tail dragger.
Apparently the plane swung on take-off and the pilot hit the brakes

aeropilot

40,522 posts

256 months

Sunday 11th June 2017
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silverfoxcc said:
Has the main spar been buggered?
Looks very much like it has.

I've now seen it reported elsewhere that its not recommend to operate a 19 off grass, with so little prop tip to ground clearance when level, so, the pilot was clearly taking an uneccessary risk if thats the case.
It also seems that there was no accident/fire coverage at this event, hence the public seen trying to lift the a/c to drag the pilot out, which if he had a neck/spine injury could have done even more damage!!
The fire truck took 30 mins to arrive....!!


Riley Blue

23,205 posts

255 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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Hell's bells, hope pilot and all spectators are OK. From 3:00


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnVAPfCgjxI

Krikkit

27,935 posts

210 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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Weird that you would operate without any backup like that! I know the Spit isn't exactly known for bursting into flames, but still...

I suspect it'll be a while (if ever) until that flies again.

aeropilot

40,522 posts

256 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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Krikkit said:
Weird that you would operate without any backup like that! I know the Spit isn't exactly known for bursting into flames, but still...

I suspect it'll be a while (if ever) until that flies again.
It will be a while, but it will fly again, only needs a new airframe, engine, prop etc.,etc.

All Spitfire airframe structure is 'available off the shelf' so that's not an issue (apart from the cost) and IIRC, this has the ex-Shack Griffon 58 engine conversions, so while the engine has likely been shock loaded, it should be too much of a problem to rebuild/replace.
With no fire etc., this isn't a big deal (money and time aside) to get back in the air again.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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I think that this Spitfire had been fitted with a contra-rotating propeller at one point. Maybe this ground contact with the prop might not have happened if it still had been fitted.


I'm sure it will be repaired. Spitfires are worth restoring because of the demand in the marketplace for them. The main thing is nobody was hurt.

Krikkit

27,935 posts

210 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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aeropilot said:
Krikkit said:
I suspect it'll be a while (if ever) until that flies again.
It will be a while, but it will fly again, only needs a new airframe, engine, prop etc.,etc.

All Spitfire airframe structure is 'available off the shelf' so that's not an issue (apart from the cost) and IIRC, this has the ex-Shack Griffon 58 engine conversions, so while the engine has likely been shock loaded, it should be too much of a problem to rebuild/replace.
With no fire etc., this isn't a big deal (money and time aside) to get back in the air again.
Interesting, I would've thought the main spare and major structural bits wouldn't be available, they're obviously worth enough to keep producing/repairing them.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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When you consider the wrecks out of which flyable Spitfires have been "restored", yesterday's incident resulted in fairly minor damage.

bungz

1,965 posts

149 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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As far as I know if you have the cash you can petty much build a new spit out of new parts, big big money though!

aeropilot

40,522 posts

256 months

Monday 12th June 2017
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Eric Mc said:
The main thing is nobody was hurt.
Actually two people were hurt.