Oh my god, I’m so excited.........
Oh my god, I’m so excited.........
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HoHoHo

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279 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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I have just been asked by a good friend who is a training captain for a major airline if I’m free later this evening have a play for 4 hours on an A320 simulator...........

Just the two of us and I he can program it to do whatever I like - not sure what we’re going to do but I’m like a little child at Christmas.........I can’t bloody wait smile


Vocal Minority

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181 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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That is actually ace.

I am most jealous - have fun!

HoHoHo

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Thursday 7th December 2017
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He’s been waiting for permission for some time, it’s hard to get so I understand.

I’ve been in a non-moving 737-800 sim previously for 45 minutes but this is the ‘real deal’

And for 4 hours!

ATG

23,666 posts

301 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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You lucky bd. That is all.

Ayahuasca

27,580 posts

308 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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Try a supersonic inverted flight through tower bridge?

HoHoHo

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Thursday 7th December 2017
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Ayahuasca said:
Try a supersonic inverted flight through tower bridge?
Could do scratchchin

Might try a 90 degree dive from 40,000 ft to see how long the aircraft holds together?

jkh112

23,930 posts

187 months

Thursday 7th December 2017
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Take off from LaGuardia then bird strike and see if you can make it to teterboro.

HoHoHo

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Friday 8th December 2017
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Well..............

4 hours of serious playing smile

Lots of take off’s/landings in fine, wet, windy, snowy weather, in day and night etc
Bird strikes, engine failure in flight, on take off
Stalls at various heights to show what the aircraft is capable of.
A few circuits in and out of various difficult airports around Europe.

All sorts of experiences and wow........just wow.

The sim doesn’t have NY so we had to simulate a bird strike at 3000ft from Nice and returned (and crashed!) for the Sully experience.

I’ve been in many cockpits however the amount of work being done not only flying but programming is frankly astonishing - quick but there’s a lot of it.

There must have been 15 sims in the building, A320’s, various private jets, an A340 & a 747


Edited by HoHoHo on Friday 8th December 09:50

silverfoxcc

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174 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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I weigh 15 stone,can you smuggle me in there in a suitcase...LOTS of money will change hands!!!

Enjoy yourself. i really envy you ,in the nicest way

Full report and vids ( if poss) mandatory

HoHoHo

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Friday 8th December 2017
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silverfoxcc said:
I weigh 15 stone,can you smuggle me in there in a suitcase...LOTS of money will change hands!!!

Enjoy yourself. i really envy you ,in the nicest way

Full report and vids ( if poss) mandatory
Sadly the experience was overnight last night!





I've had some limited experience and found the 'flying' relatively easy. It's the failures, alarms and the procedure that gets your pulse going. Engine fails, check lists etc. and the best option it appears is to keep calm and carry on taking your time to sort the situation.

alangla

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210 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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HoHoHo said:
I’ve been in a non-moving 737-800 sim previously for 45 minutes but this is the ‘real deal’
I bought myself a Groupon for an hour in a non-moving 737-800 last month. It was brilliant. You're right about the amount of programming - we spent about half the time setting up the route on the flight computer etc. Once we got going, the flight I did from Glasgow to Aldergrove seemed to pass in a couple of minutes (I know it's only really about 20-30 mins in the air). The thing I found hardest was doing a visual cross-wind landing - you find yourself trying to line up with the runway while you're being blown sideways. Once I'd got my head round that, it wasn't too tricky.

What did you find was the biggest difference between the 737 & A320? The sim operator/first officer said I was being too gentle with the controls & that the 737 needs a bit more of a shove on the yoke vs more measured inputs on the sidestick of the Airbus.

Either way - I'm seriously jealous!

HoHoHo

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Friday 8th December 2017
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alangla said:
HoHoHo said:
I’ve been in a non-moving 737-800 sim previously for 45 minutes but this is the ‘real deal’
I bought myself a Groupon for an hour in a non-moving 737-800 last month. It was brilliant. You're right about the amount of programming - we spent about half the time setting up the route on the flight computer etc. Once we got going, the flight I did from Glasgow to Aldergrove seemed to pass in a couple of minutes (I know it's only really about 20-30 mins in the air). The thing I found hardest was doing a visual cross-wind landing - you find yourself trying to line up with the runway while you're being blown sideways. Once I'd got my head round that, it wasn't too tricky.

What did you find was the biggest difference between the 737 & A320? The sim operator/first officer said I was being too gentle with the controls & that the 737 needs a bit more of a shove on the yoke vs more measured inputs on the sidestick of the Airbus.

Either way - I'm seriously jealous!
The main difference is the yoke - 737 has a traditional one but the A320 has a joystick. The joystick is very sensitive and when landing requires really small inputs otherwise you go all over the place. You don;t also have a visual reference of where the yoke is. You can move it one way slightly and then it re-centres where of course a Boeing will show what the flight controls are doing. Once I'd settled down on landing I found the concentration looking the instruments and runway fairly easy but you're constantly scanning both. Flaring wasn't too easy to start with and I managed to thump the aircraft into the tarmac once or twice!

With regard to movement of the sim I was amazed with the realism - aside from taxiing which made me feel quite hurl It's an odd feeling and totally disorientating. Stalling was amazing and we even completed two rolls smile

Still buzzing!

aeropilot

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256 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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HoHoHo said:
The main difference is the yoke - 737 has a traditional one but the A320 has a joystick. The joystick is very sensitive and when landing requires really small inputs otherwise you go all over the place. You don;t also have a visual reference of where the yoke is. You can move it one way slightly and then it re-centres where of course a Boeing will show what the flight controls are doing.
And naff all interconnection 'feel' between 'side-sticks' either, as could be seen as a culprit of the AF447 crash off Brazil.


HoHoHo

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Friday 8th December 2017
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aeropilot said:
HoHoHo said:
The main difference is the yoke - 737 has a traditional one but the A320 has a joystick. The joystick is very sensitive and when landing requires really small inputs otherwise you go all over the place. You don;t also have a visual reference of where the yoke is. You can move it one way slightly and then it re-centres where of course a Boeing will show what the flight controls are doing.
And naff all interconnection 'feel' between 'side-sticks' either, as could be seen as a culprit of the AF447 crash off Brazil.
As it happens I was shown how that all started.

Amazing with all the alarms a simple push of the joystick and throttle up would apparently have go them out of trouble rather than pulling back frantically.

TIGA84

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260 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Mate of mine is a BA pilot and got me on the 737 Sim at Heathrow a few years back, was incredible fun.

His full bore takeoff from Gatwick, fly under the footbridge and land again as a fast as possible challenge was impressive. rofl

Engine failure on Takeoff was far less dramatic than I thought.

I thought steering the fker on the ground with the side wheel thing and keeping it straight/vaguely near the runway and not on the grass was harder than flying the thing! hehe

Glad you had fun OP.

HoHoHo

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Friday 8th December 2017
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TIGA84 said:
Mate of mine is a BA pilot and got me on the 737 Sim at Heathrow a few years back, was incredible fun.

His full bore takeoff from Gatwick, fly under the footbridge and land again as a fast as possible challenge was impressive. rofl

Engine failure on Takeoff was far less dramatic than I thought.

I thought steering the fker on the ground with the side wheel thing and keeping it straight/vaguely near the runway and not on the grass was harder than flying the thing! hehe

Glad you had fun OP.
Did the Gatwick take off and fly under the bridge excercise as well!

Well, my mate did slightly better than me, 4ft off the ground and straight under, I didn’t do quite so well wink

jesta1865

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238 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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my ex-father in law used to be a pilot for Cathay Pacific and then Virgin Atlantic.

When he was still out in HK he managed to get me in a 747 simulator for a couple of hours.

This was back in the 90's so a lot less sophisticated than today, but still able to program landing at Kai-Tak airport at night in the fog, and I think snowing as well, I crashed and wiped out most of the airport.

Perhaps it was just as well I didn't join the Navy to fly helichoppers smile

83AndyJ

116 posts

182 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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While I was in college back in 2000 I did a week of work experience at RAF Wittering. I was given a couple of hours in the Harrier flight sim on the Tuesday evening.
I will never forget that experience. Thankfully I had done a little bit of flying with the RAF cadets and had some serious enthusiasm for PC based flight simulators so I was actually able to fly the Harrier sim and enjoy my time in the seat.

AshVX220

5,965 posts

219 months

Friday 8th December 2017
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Awesome experience, my best mate flies 777's out of Dubai, I very much doubt I'd ever be able to get on one of their Sims.

5150

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Friday 8th December 2017
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Amazing with all the alarms a simple push of the joystick and throttle up would apparently have go them out of trouble rather than pulling back frantically.

Yes . . . .'simple' under the circumstances.