Civilian ejections
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Dr Jekyll

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23,820 posts

290 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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After reading the Red Arrow incident thread I've been thinking about civilian owned and maintained ejection seats. What cases have there been of civilian ejections? I can only think of one offhand, a Hunter, but I think there have been more.

J4CKO

46,808 posts

229 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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I got ejected out of a Yates once, didn't get a tie though.

texaxile

3,752 posts

179 months

mybrainhurts

90,809 posts

284 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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A Jet Provost pilot's brother parted company with him by accidental ejection.

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Saturday 27th January 2018
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The seat ended up in a Sainsbury's car park.

Technically, he wasn't really ejected. His brother rolled the Jet Provost inverted, and he simply fell out.

The seat hadn't been re-installed properly after maintenance.

J4CKO

46,808 posts

229 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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Eric Mc said:
The seat ended up in a Sainsbury's car park.

Technically, he wasn't really ejected. His brother rolled the Jet Provost inverted, and he simply fell out.

The seat hadn't been re-installed properly after maintenance.
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/faulty-seat-ejects-jet-passenger-at-3000ft-1367887.html


StephenP

1,918 posts

239 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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His seat slid down the rails under the force of gravity and fell through the canopy

AAIB report is here :
https://www.gov.uk/aaib-reports/jet-provost-t3a-g-...



Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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I still have the news report somewhere on a VHS tape. They had a shot of the seat lying in the car park with police tape keeping the public away. They interviewed the chap who fell out. He was wearing a turban type head bandage. He obvious bashed his head on the way out. He was quite cool about the whole thing but was worried if his brother didn't really like him.

aeropilot

40,519 posts

256 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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A pure civvie ejection from a pure civvie registered aircraft.....can't be that many.
As said by OP, other than Craig Penrice's ejection from that F.6 some years ago, I can't think of another commanded ejection from a civvie regd ex-mil jet.
Sadly, there should have been another one in South Africa.... that didn't happen because of a defective maintenance regime.

A civvie pilot ejected from a Hunter off California coast last summer, but that was one of the civvie owned but operated under Mil contract Hunters, but was a civvie pilot from a N reg civvie owned aircraft.


eharding

14,648 posts

313 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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aeropilot said:
A pure civvie ejection from a pure civvie registered aircraft.....can't be that many.
As said by OP, other than Craig Penrice's ejection from that F.6 some years ago, I can't think of another commanded ejection from a civvie regd ex-mil jet.
Sadly, there should have been another one in South Africa.... that didn't happen because of a defective maintenance regime.

A civvie pilot ejected from a Hunter off California coast last summer, but that was one of the civvie owned but operated under Mil contract Hunters, but was a civvie pilot from a N reg civvie owned aircraft.
The L39 accident at Duxford. Brake failure, and the front-seater ejected on the over-run. Sadly the seat was out of limits, resulting in a fatality. The back-seater stayed put, and was unharmed.

Edited: Duxford, not Northolt.


Edited by eharding on Sunday 28th January 18:35

Eric Mc

125,606 posts

294 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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NASA aircraft are technically civilian so anybody who has ejected from a NASA F-104 or similar will count as a civilian ejection.

AstonZagato

14,133 posts

239 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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I had a backseat ride in the Breitling fighters a few years back. I was briefed to use the ejector seat: "I will say 'eject, eject, eject'. Pull the cord between your legs. If you hear the third eject, you will be the only one left in the plane because I will be long gone."

Thankfully didn't need to employ that piece of advice

Simpo Two

92,658 posts

294 months

Sunday 28th January 2018
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AstonZagato said:
I was briefed to use the ejector seat: "I will say 'eject, eject, eject'. Pull the cord between your legs. If you hear the third eject, you will be the only one left in the plane because I will be long gone."
I think that's standard patter; I've heard it too though I'm not sure where or why. Probably my cadet days.

RobGT81

5,229 posts

215 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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A civvie fell out of a Tonka recently, when it went inverted and his seat wasn't fitted correctly.

Boatbuoy

1,975 posts

191 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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RobGT81 said:
A civvie fell out of a Tonka recently, when it went inverted and his seat wasn't fitted correctly.
11 years ago!

He was in some way related to my Auntie's family.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-11566...

Jimbo.

4,212 posts

218 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Eric Mc said:
NASA aircraft are technically civilian so anybody who has ejected from a NASA F-104 or similar will count as a civilian ejection.
Neil Armstrong, ejecting from the Lunar Landing Research Vehicle?

Ian Lancs

1,158 posts

195 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Boatbuoy said:
RobGT81 said:
A civvie fell out of a Tonka recently, when it went inverted and his seat wasn't fitted correctly.
11 years ago!

He was in some way related to my Auntie's family.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-norfolk-11566...
Thats a day I'll never forget - had the pleasure of working with Mike at the time frown

Seight_Returns

1,640 posts

230 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Believe that MB had (have?) A Meteor on the civil register and one of their employees has performed numerous test ejections from the rear seat.

aeropilot

40,519 posts

256 months

Monday 29th January 2018
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Seight_Returns said:
Believe that MB had (have?) A Meteor on the civil register and one of their employees has performed numerous test ejections from the rear seat.
Two of them actually, WA638 & WL419 and its only in recent years they have gone on the civil register, as MB had operated them for years out of Chalgrove on their original mil seriels under COMA .




ecs

1,447 posts

199 months

Tuesday 30th January 2018
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Why eject when you can take the whole aircraft down with you?