Helicopter in the fog
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anonymous-user

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78 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Posted on another thread, just wondered if the resident experts can say what they are doing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rNmng0pghG4

Ryan-nunm9

207 posts

95 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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What makes people think its an SAS choppa, looks more like a private one to me?


Worth noting im no helicopter expert and even though and ex infantry man neither am I a SF expert either, but would guess the use of Pumas, Merlins, Wild cats and Chinooks are the norm

Edited by Ryan-nunm9 on Monday 6th August 09:01

Narcisus

8,912 posts

304 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Big thread on Pprune about this. Those in the know say it's SAS.

NDA

24,963 posts

249 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Yikes!

To the untrained eye, I'd say he was looking to put down in dangerous conditions.

But I know nothing about such things.

DMN

3,042 posts

163 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Narcisus said:
Big thread on Pprune about this. Those in the know say it's SAS.
Army Air Corps rather than SAS, but still a Special Forces helicopter.

They'll have to re-paint it again now.

IanH755

2,648 posts

144 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Ryan-nunm9 said:
What makes people think its an SAS choppa, looks more like a private one to me?
An identical one was spotted during the terror attack at London Bridge dropping off people so people have put 2 and 2 together and said it's an SF helicopter.

Whether it's the same one in the vid is unknown really but again, putting 2 and 2 together, it's doing something most civilian crews wouldn't so chances are it's the "SF" again.

BrettMRC

5,626 posts

184 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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That was clearly Air Wolf.... getmecoat

ecs

1,414 posts

194 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Looks like a pilot attempting one of the most popular fk-ups out there - CFIT.

DuraAce

4,272 posts

184 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Looks like a 658 Sqn dauphin, especially in that paint scheme. They have 8(?) I think? ZJ780-ZJ787.

Ryan-nunm9

207 posts

95 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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IanH755 said:
Ryan-nunm9 said:
What makes people think its an SAS choppa, looks more like a private one to me?
An identical one was spotted during the terror attack at London Bridge dropping off people so people have put 2 and 2 together and said it's an SF helicopter.

Whether it's the same one in the vid is unknown really but again, putting 2 and 2 together, it's doing something most civilian crews wouldn't so chances are it's the "SF" again.
If thats the case I'd suggest it has something to do with Police CT SFO's (Specialist Firearms Officers), these boys do a lot of training with SF. Most decent size forces wll have SFO's these days or provide them to a regional unit.

Pah, either way that's some ropey weather to be flying in!

Planman

599 posts

277 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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A helicopter just like that in same colour scheme landed 30 mins ago on the helipad at Leeds General Infirmary. A couple of minutes later it took off.

They were closing the side door well after it had took off so assume not your usual air ambulance.

Evanivitch

25,978 posts

146 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Ryan-nunm9 said:
Worth noting im no helicopter expert and even though and ex infantry man neither am I a SF expert either, but would guess the use of Pumas, Merlins, Wild cats and Chinooks are the norm

Edited by Ryan-nunm9 on Monday 6th August 09:01
Military helicopters tend to stand out quite a lot in urban environments!

Ryan-nunm9

207 posts

95 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Agreed, but pretty much any form of helicopter stands out in an urban environment. Hence why they're not used for surveillance on the main land. There's an Apachi above London, Vauxhall area every now and then. However for the jobs the SF etc are trying to do I doubt there arent many civi heli's with the ability for fast roping etc - I could be wrong. Hear a helicopter and "eveyone" has a look to see if it's the Police one or the Air Ambulance as these are the main ones the majority of people would see unless living near a military garrison.

Oakey

27,970 posts

240 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Isn't the fact it appears to be unmarked like the one in the above pic a bit of a giveaway?

Yertis

19,565 posts

290 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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DuraAce said:
Looks like a 658 Sqn dauphin, especially in that paint scheme. They have 8(?) I think? ZJ780-ZJ787.
Why Dauphins? What's special about them, other than their innocuousness?

Evanivitch

25,978 posts

146 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Oakey said:
Isn't the fact it appears to be unmarked like the one in the above pic a bit of a giveaway?
It has the serial on it.

Munter

31,330 posts

265 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Evanivitch said:
Oakey said:
Isn't the fact it appears to be unmarked like the one in the above pic a bit of a giveaway?
It has the serial on it.
I think they might have meant the fact it doesn't have: "Flying By Ian (Helicopter services)", or "Stephan's Aerial Surveys", written on it.

Oakey

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240 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Evanivitch said:
It has the serial on it.
The one above or the one in the fog? Where, I couldn't see anything?

yellowjack

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190 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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I'm no expert, but given the helicopter losses during the Falklands War in support of SF ops, I'd hope that they'd know better than to fly in such conditions. Surely the priority is to put the helicopter on the ground and wait it out, or fly around such weather? That said, maybe they were trying to put it on the ground safely when it was filmed...

Narcisus

8,912 posts

304 months

Monday 6th August 2018
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Yertis said:
DuraAce said:
Looks like a 658 Sqn dauphin, especially in that paint scheme. They have 8(?) I think? ZJ780-ZJ787.
Why Dauphins? What's special about them, other than their innocuousness?
Nippy / Carry a decent amount of stuff / Fenstrom ?