2 new Woolwich ferries
Discussion
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/16406242.woolwic...
Along with IOW , built Eastern Europe , can't we build ships anymore ? and before keyboard warriers warm up their typing fingers , it is all down to price
Along with IOW , built Eastern Europe , can't we build ships anymore ? and before keyboard warriers warm up their typing fingers , it is all down to price
Deptford Draylons said:
Two horse and cart tunnels and a boat service to cross the river in east London in 2018....
Actually, build one down in gorgeous Thamesmead too.
Dangerous combination - http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/16384003.man-rid...Actually, build one down in gorgeous Thamesmead too.
MXRod said:
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/16406242.woolwic...
Along with IOW , built Eastern Europe , can't we build ships anymore ? and before keyboard warriers warm up their typing fingers , it is all down to price
There was quite a long thread On here a few months ago with a poster who wanted all ships (and a desperate thread for trains) all built in Britain. Along with IOW , built Eastern Europe , can't we build ships anymore ? and before keyboard warriers warm up their typing fingers , it is all down to price
Do you know if any UK shipyards budded for the Woolwich ferries? I think we came to the conclusion that numerous ships/boats are produced in the UK but we didn’t want all the work.
The Cowes chain ferry was built in wales and I believe it may have worked if we’d spent our money overseas. Problem ferry out of service twice during Cowes Week http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-451...
Floating bridge timeline:
■ 13 May 2017 - Vessel launched
■ 14 May - Broke down
■ 15 May - Service suspended by Maritime and Coastguards Agency
■ 7 June - Ran aground
■ 9 June - Ran aground for a second time
■ 9 June - Council said it had cleared "silt build-up that caused the floating bridge to ground"
■ 10 June - Ran aground a third time
■ 13 June to 3 July - Taken out of service at low tide
■ 30 June - Broke down due to electrical fault
■ 21 July - Withdrawn from service at night due to noise levels
■ 4 September - Withdrawn from service indefinitely
■ 11 December - Service resumed as part of extended trial
■ 2 February 2018 - Broken prow chain
■ 14 April - Ran aground
■ 15-16 July - Out of service for "improvements"
■ Ongoing - Unable to run during low tides
■ 8 August - Ran aground
■ 9-10 August - Out of service due to mechanical issue
ecsrobin said:
MXRod said:
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/16406242.woolwic...
Along with IOW , built Eastern Europe , can't we build ships anymore ? and before keyboard warriers warm up their typing fingers , it is all down to price
There was quite a long thread On here a few months ago with a poster who wanted all ships (and a desperate thread for trains) all built in Britain. Along with IOW , built Eastern Europe , can't we build ships anymore ? and before keyboard warriers warm up their typing fingers , it is all down to price
Do you know if any UK shipyards budded for the Woolwich ferries? I think we came to the conclusion that numerous ships/boats are produced in the UK but we didn’t want all the work.
The Cowes chain ferry was built in wales and I believe it may have worked if we’d spent our money overseas. Problem ferry out of service twice during Cowes Week http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-451...
Floating bridge timeline:
? 13 May 2017 - Vessel launched
? 14 May - Broke down
? 15 May - Service suspended by Maritime and Coastguards Agency
? 7 June - Ran aground
? 9 June - Ran aground for a second time
? 9 June - Council said it had cleared "silt build-up that caused the floating bridge to ground"
? 10 June - Ran aground a third time
? 13 June to 3 July - Taken out of service at low tide
? 30 June - Broke down due to electrical fault
? 21 July - Withdrawn from service at night due to noise levels
? 4 September - Withdrawn from service indefinitely
? 11 December - Service resumed as part of extended trial
? 2 February 2018 - Broken prow chain
? 14 April - Ran aground
? 15-16 July - Out of service for "improvements"
? Ongoing - Unable to run during low tides
? 8 August - Ran aground
? 9-10 August - Out of service due to mechanical issue
I mean, looking down that list, the majority of the issues appear to problems with the whole solution, rather than the the craft itself. Obviously a chain ferry operates in a special location with bespoke infrastructure. So without knowing who managed that it's prehaps jumping the gun to say the boat manufacturer is the issues, certainly say with the running around, if the area is silted up that's not the craft manufacturers fault.
Daniel
Daniel
ecsrobin said:
MXRod said:
http://www.newsshopper.co.uk/news/16406242.woolwic...
Along with IOW , built Eastern Europe , can't we build ships anymore ? and before keyboard warriers warm up their typing fingers , it is all down to price
There was quite a long thread On here a few months ago with a poster who wanted all ships (and a desperate thread for trains) all built in Britain. Along with IOW , built Eastern Europe , can't we build ships anymore ? and before keyboard warriers warm up their typing fingers , it is all down to price
Do you know if any UK shipyards budded for the Woolwich ferries? I think we came to the conclusion that numerous ships/boats are produced in the UK but we didn’t want all the work.
The Cowes chain ferry was built in wales and I believe it may have worked if we’d spent our money overseas. Problem ferry out of service twice during Cowes Week http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-451...
Floating bridge timeline:
? 13 May 2017 - Vessel launched
? 14 May - Broke down
? 15 May - Service suspended by Maritime and Coastguards Agency
? 7 June - Ran aground
? 9 June - Ran aground for a second time
? 9 June - Council said it had cleared "silt build-up that caused the floating bridge to ground"
? 10 June - Ran aground a third time
? 13 June to 3 July - Taken out of service at low tide
? 30 June - Broke down due to electrical fault
? 21 July - Withdrawn from service at night due to noise levels
? 4 September - Withdrawn from service indefinitely
? 11 December - Service resumed as part of extended trial
? 2 February 2018 - Broken prow chain
? 14 April - Ran aground
? 15-16 July - Out of service for "improvements"
? Ongoing - Unable to run during low tides
? 8 August - Ran aground
? 9-10 August - Out of service due to mechanical issue
IIRC the last new vessel for the Red Jets was built on the IOW.
hidetheelephants said:
hose sound like operator errors or design flaws for the most part, the shipyard can only deliver what's ordered; if some dimwit orders something without specifying how loud it is to be or what draft a vessel can have and still operate effectively in a location then that's nothing to do with the builder. Presumably the previous vessel managed to operate at low tide without grounding on mud banks.
IIRC the last new vessel for the Red Jets was built on the IOW.
The previous vessel managed to run at all states of tide and relatively quiet. IIRC the last new vessel for the Red Jets was built on the IOW.
Yes the new red jet got launched the other day and was built on the island. They also build the Thames clipper boats there.
Deptford Draylons said:
What a waste of time and money. Building a bridge here would have been more useful. Two horse and cart tunnels and a boat service to cross the river in east London in 2018....
Actually, build one down in gorgeous Thamesmead too.
Don't worry Sadiq has his toll Silvertown tunnel coming along with his tolling of the Blackwall and Rotherhithe the cretin.Actually, build one down in gorgeous Thamesmead too.
ecsrobin said:
The Cowes chain ferry was built in wales and I believe it may have worked if we’d spent our money overseas. Problem ferry out of service twice during Cowes Week http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hampshire-451...
Its true the new chain ferry has been troublesome. Root of the issue is that its too big for the chains to cope with the spring ebb, this sets the ferry too far to the north for it to be able to dock. The other issues have been fairly minor.A Cowes shipbuilding firm are now engaged to create a system that can adjust the chains according to the tide.
Red Jet 6 and 7 were built in Cowes, Wight shipyards have at least 2 export orders one to Germany and one to South America for similar high speed craft.
Red Funnel have a new freight only boat in build that will run Southampton to Cowes, its a UK build.
SmoothCriminal said:
Deptford Draylons said:
What a waste of time and money. Building a bridge here would have been more useful. Two horse and cart tunnels and a boat service to cross the river in east London in 2018....
Actually, build one down in gorgeous Thamesmead too.
Don't worry Sadiq has his toll Silvertown tunnel coming along with his tolling of the Blackwall and Rotherhithe the cretin.Actually, build one down in gorgeous Thamesmead too.
kowalski655 said:
How old are the current ferries?
I remember my nan taking me and little brother on the bus from East Ham to spend a happy day just going back and forth in the ferry(I'm obviously easily pleased!
) and that was 40+ years ago
I would not be surprised if they were the same ones
Wiki reckons 1963. Any idea if the new ones are straight diesel powered or similar to some of the battery hybrids that CalMac bought a few years ago?I remember my nan taking me and little brother on the bus from East Ham to spend a happy day just going back and forth in the ferry(I'm obviously easily pleased!
) and that was 40+ years agoI would not be surprised if they were the same ones
alangla said:
kowalski655 said:
How old are the current ferries?
I remember my nan taking me and little brother on the bus from East Ham to spend a happy day just going back and forth in the ferry(I'm obviously easily pleased!) and that was 40+ years ago
I would not be surprised if they were the same ones
Wiki reckons 1963. Any idea if the new ones are straight diesel powered or similar to some of the battery hybrids that CalMac bought a few years ago?I remember my nan taking me and little brother on the bus from East Ham to spend a happy day just going back and forth in the ferry(I'm obviously easily pleased!
) and that was 40+ years agoI would not be surprised if they were the same ones
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